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Religious freedom will be suffocated if ALP elected : Comments

By Pat Byrne, published 17/5/2019

In 2013, the federal Labor government fundamentally changed the Act to make gender identity and sexual orientation protected attributes.

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Alan Joyce should explain....!

What did Alan Joyce really Mean with these two statements ( made in response to Duttons criticism of qantas support for gays, and their marriage dictatorship).

“There is an economic argument for marriage equality, backed by research. In short, ...NB...*more open societies attract better talent*.”

Joyce said "Qantas was one of 200 Australian companies publicly supporting marriage equality ...NB...“because we don’t think some people should have fewer rights than others”".

Wonder if Joyce's linage could be traced back to Starlin?

Joke of the year so far...sorry Folau, you don't count!

Dan
Posted by diver dan, Friday, 17 May 2019 9:02:35 PM
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More evidence of Alan Joyce's "Partisan" leanings towards the Godless society:

...The partnership with the Sydney Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras has played an important role for Qantas in celebrating and supporting the LGBTQI community...

This segregated society nonesense should be brought back into line!

Joyce should be sacked!

Dan.
Posted by diver dan, Friday, 17 May 2019 9:22:06 PM
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The religious in general and Christians in particular have an obsessive persecution and martyrdom complex. They have a heightened sense of paranoia as well as about their importance in the world.

We see it every Christmas and Easter with the usual nonsensical stories about how the mysterious but unnamed "they" are trying to ban this or that, and from others who hear satanic backmasking in music or the alleged demonic possession of many public figures (but only those they disagree with).

Why the obsession with toilets and change rooms but a tactful blind eye to what happens to children in the vestry, especially when there are scant reports about the former but plenty of criminal convictions for the latter?
Posted by rache, Friday, 17 May 2019 11:39:25 PM
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Dear Patrick J Byrne (the author),

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You wrote :

« What about the rights of parents to expect a high-level duty of care for their children and of their "prior right to choose the kind of education that shall be given to their children", as recognised in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights? What about the liberty of parents "to ensure the religious and moral education of their children in conformity with their own convictions", as recognised in the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights? »
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The Human Rights you refer to are, more precisely ; “freedom of thought, conscience and religion”. None are absolute. All three are equal and must be respected.

Each must accept and tolerate the other two.
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UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS :

Freedom of religion and belief are recognised as human rights in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which was proclaimed by the United Nations in 1948 as ‘a common standard of achievement for all peoples and all nations’. Article 18 states:

« Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance »
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INTERNATIONAL COVENANT ON CIVIL AND POLITICAL RIGHTS :

Freedom of religion and belief are also recognised in the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, which was adopted by the United Nations in 1966. The Australian Government ratified (that is, became a party to) the Covenant in 1980. Therefore, the Australian Government has obligations (set out in Article 2 of the Covenant), including to respect and to ensure the civil and political rights of all individuals within its jurisdiction. Article 18 of the Covenant states:

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Posted by Banjo Paterson, Friday, 17 May 2019 11:45:49 PM
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(Continued …)

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« 1. Everyone shall have the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion. This right shall include freedom to have or to adopt a religion or belief of his choice, and freedom, either individually or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in worship, observance, practice and teaching.

« 2. No one shall be subject to coercion which would impair his freedom to have or to adopt a religion or belief of his choice.

« 3. Freedom to manifest one’s religion or beliefs may be subject only to such limitations as are prescribed by law and are necessary to protect public safety, order, health or morals or the fundamental rights and freedoms of others.

« 4. The States Parties to the present Covenant undertake to have respect for the liberty of parents and, when applicable, legal guardians to ensure the religious and moral education of their children in conformity with their own convictions »

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Posted by Banjo Paterson, Friday, 17 May 2019 11:50:15 PM
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Never mind. A Green/Labor/atheist government coming up. More Muslim 'refugees'. The boats coming again. You Christophobes won't have to worry about Christianity for much longer.
Posted by ttbn, Saturday, 18 May 2019 9:45:10 AM
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