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The loss of the eternal : Comments

By Peter Sellick, published 5/1/2018

Nihilism has become the order of the day. Death, the enemy of the eternal, has become the final and omnipotent power.

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Unmitigated nonsense all the way down!

What is the message and calling of death? Or, put in another way what does death require of us?
http://www.easydeathbook.com/purpose.asp

http://www.beezone.com/death_message.html

And what is eternal? Consciousness of course, or more correctly Consciousness and Light which is the Energy of Consciousness.

http://www.consciousnessitself.org

Plus this essay titled The Dual Sensitivity

http://www.beezone.com/da_publications/dualsens.html
Posted by Daffy Duck, Friday, 5 January 2018 8:52:33 AM
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He's right on. widespread nihilism seems to lead to the most boring societies with how theyre usually characterised by gender dysphoria, alcohol, drugs, sport obsession, huge debts and gambling. Whereas a Carolingian-style society would be quite amazing especially if it had a 5% corporate tax rate, no income tax, and private social security and live symphonic music.
Posted by progressive pat, Friday, 5 January 2018 9:13:31 AM
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In a book, Life after life, an eminent researcher examined numerous subjects under hypnosis, to see if any could recall memories of past lives? Tested those memories, by asking for newspaper headlines etc on particular dates. That could then be verified by a search of dusty archives.

Given numbers of incidents, far distant historical records confirmed recalled under hypnosis accounts! Given no other possible credible explanation?

Reasonable to assume these memories were probably real?

Makes perfect sense out of, so as you sow, so also shall you reap; and countless examples of a hostile world, dispensing justice to innocent children?

And, verily verily (truly truly) I say unto you, to reach unto the kingdom of heaven, ye must be born again!

Recorded out of body experiences, invariably explained as hallucinations occurring in an injured brain? Given that's only one possible explanation? Suppose however, the experiences were literal remembered experience.

Finally and as the most convincing evidence for a life beyond this physical experience?

A widely reported case of a young Australian man, rendered comatose for several years. Although never ever having been ever exposed at any time, or in any setting, to Asian culture, people or their languages!

Woke up one day speaking fluent mandarin, the most complex and difficult language on earth to learn!

Another reported example, had a man waking up from similar circumstance, able to play the piano rather well. Even though never have taken a single lesson or even owned a piano ever.

This is evidence?

Whereas the case for, it all ends with the day with draw our last breath? Has nothing more than unfounded supposition to support it! Nothing!

I say this as someone who has opened death's door on three separate occasions and returned to bear witness!

Be warned, Hell is a very real unimaginably brutal and totally terrifying, ETERNAL place! And you never ever want to go there!

Or make a deal with the incredibly powerful evil entity that presides over it!

What shall it benefit a man that he should gain the entire world and lose his immortal soul!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Friday, 5 January 2018 9:32:35 AM
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One doesn't have to belong to organised religion to believe in a Creator or a life after this one!

And possibly helps and truly independent, critical thinking/analysis, if he/she doesn't?

Given the endlessly conflicting messages and the POLITICAL contest for devotees! And where an IQ roughly equal to the ambient temperature, invariably assists with the brainwashing form birth belief, that then sticks, as in the conditioning of Pavlov's salivating on cue, dogs!

If an unquestioned life is hardly worth living? Then so also ,an unquestioned belief system not worth following or even the time of day!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Friday, 5 January 2018 9:44:46 AM
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Whilst I respectfully accept and Peter's role and understanding within his Christian church, I reject the truth of much of his dogma. He does not seem to consider moral or ethical explanations from philosophers from outside his own faith; not that I believe that he should accept them in a realm so full of potential conjecture as spirituality, but that he should consider other points of view. It is a challenge for scientists and philosophers to define life, partially because life is a process, not a substance. Nor is it acceptable to limit one's reasoning to the existence of some supreme being. All of us create the conditions of our own existence by consciously deciding on our own thoughts, speech, and actions... as one poster stated "as you sow, so shall you reap". How very true but not the deliberations of some Divinity, just the factuality of cause and effect. To me, therefore, it is important to understand deeply the outcomes of our own behaviours in moulding the current life which we and all other sentient beings live. It is also important to realise that our attitudes in this world will impinge on any new existence after death ...a sort of shaping of our next existence by the outcomes of our previous one. Death is certainly nothing to be feared (or enjoyed!). It is just the progression from one state of being to another. A bit like the hour hand on a clock approaching midnight which, when it comes, ushers in a whole new day. Change is constant, progressive, and permanent. Accept it and cope in a positive spirit.
Posted by Ponder, Friday, 5 January 2018 5:43:42 PM
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The sad point of it all is death is not final as we tend to think it. Don't get yourself upset here because Death and the second death are not at all the same but both are awaiting he or she that will not bend the knee in worship and in love to the Messiah, the Christ. The troubling thing is man is not just the shell we are contained in. Nope, there is a spirit in everybody's body that contains the image of God and that, like God, is eternal and the Second Death is Eternal Death in the Lake of Fire, separated from the Creator God.

A thought worthy of consideration.
Posted by th1b.taylor, Sunday, 7 January 2018 8:23:58 AM
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