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The loss of the eternal : Comments

By Peter Sellick, published 5/1/2018

Nihilism has become the order of the day. Death, the enemy of the eternal, has become the final and omnipotent power.

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Afterthought. Who knows what impossibilities we could see with our own eyes/in our lifetime, with the power of COMBINED YES WE CAN, thinking.

Why man might even do impossible things like flying, breaking the sound barrier or walking on the moon. All once absolutely impossible!

As is a thorium powered/drought proof Australia, where prosperity and abundance is the norm and poverty extremely unusual!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Sunday, 7 January 2018 5:58:15 PM
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It seems strange to me that both nihilism (belief in emptiness, nothingness, and death) and in reincarnation are growing perspectives that challenge Christianity. Both seem to really with authority but are opposite of each other. Nihilist say "after all everything comes to an end, and everything dies," and they say it with such authority that it makes sense. Then those who believe in reincarnation say the opposite. Saying something like, "energy never dies just changes form, we are reincarnated and do the same." With again the same no nonsense this is how it is approach as the nihilist.

There are stories of past lives and memories of earlier lives that are reported, to give a foundation to reincarnation. Then there are the observations that lead to the conclusions of everything dying. Even our sun to die. Yet these are opposites beliefs concerning death and dying. Can they both be right? That everything comes to an end and nothing matters; as well as nothing ever ends but is reborn in the same world suffering the same sorrows and sharing the same joys.

I am happy to find out God is real, because His promise of eternity is much better then both nihilism and reincarnation. Search for God to see if He is real, and if He is real, be over joyed. His promise of one day earth being made new without the war and death we have now, and His promise of eternal life, not just just eternal reincarnation, are promises to be very happy about.

I would recommend anyone else too seek and look for God too. If you seek Him you'll find Him. Not because of belief only, but because Heis real. If I'm wrong though, and you don't find God, then go decide on whether to believe in the other two options. Search for God first though. His promises are better then the other two options, and are worth the search to see if they are right.
Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Sunday, 7 January 2018 7:52:26 PM
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I admire Peter Sellick for his persistent defence of the Christian religion, and its “way”.

Globally, populations adhere consistently to many and varied religious beliefs, and only in the West, is religious affiliation in slow decline.

But, as China enters the world from its dark cave, religion is seeping into its anxious make-up. Globally, atheists are an insignificant minority with little to offer but cynicism: that is not attractive as an alternative to humanly encompassing world religions. There is no threat!

There is no threat, but there are losers, so let Atheists lose, who cares: In the Christian religion, God does care about that, and Peter toils-on against the rising tide of unbelievers the West produces, to its own detriment!
Posted by diver dan, Sunday, 7 January 2018 8:50:19 PM
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I believe there is a creative force and opposite forces for good and evil. Both of which indisputably exist!

Whether or not this creative force is that which we call God I don't know. I do know it is everywhere and has created all life by becoming part of it.

And so he created man in his own image In his own image did he create him. Meaning He/she are not separate from us but are part of all there is and everywhere present. even in every breath we take.

We feel this power when we express love, in every act of kindness and in the kindness of strangers.

I believe this is so, every time I hear a baby cry or touch a leaf or see the sky.

Believing in God does not, never ever has equated to believing in organised religion!

Particularly those who allegedly confer the power to kill this or that subgroup of humans, for any reason other than self defense.

No man or woman speaks for God! Nor does any belief system.

Heaven waits for us all and knows what's is in your heart! Which is all that matters! Not slavishly following some words in some ancient Book. Men, who cannot possibly know, tell you is the literal word of God!

Even when they spout completely contradictory versions both of which cannot be simultaneously true, nor necessarily either!

If the Author were to walk on water or cause the dead to rise, as you watched, there could be a convincing argument.

But telling someone/anyone to disbelieve collected and collated evidence or eyewitness accounts, because it contradicts authorized script, is just not on!

Just more of the ritualist brainwashing that divides families, sets brother against brother etc/etc, and therefore, inherently evil!

As is a child raping paedophile!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Sunday, 7 January 2018 10:28:26 PM
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I don't know that Peter should be so sweepingly denying "the eternal" or the "supernatural". There are many things we know now which we could not conceive in the past. From the origins of our universe, to invisible spectrums (or dimensions) of light and shadow , even to the fact the world is not flat! Yes there are problems with assuming (literal) eternity for humanity. The Sun will go Red Giant and then Dwarf Star long before the Universe succumbs to entropy. But we're talking billions of years ; and civilisation has only existed around 4000 years at most. I wouldn't 100% deny humanity may "find a way". But the more immediate question is whether there is "a second life" ; and there are many reasons I wouldn't rule it out. As I said in an earlier article, how can we explain free-will and consciousness without reference to the 'transcendental'. And if the 'transcendental' exists ; perhaps in dimensions currently invisible to us - who is to say "Death is the end"? It depends whether the 'essence of humanity' is merely in our bodies ; or in something transcendent (spiritual) which animates us...

I still believe in God ; but I do worry at the Sadduces' materialism back in ancient times, for instance ; but also there is the question: what is meant in scripture by "we are made of dust ; and to dust we return"? Is eternal life compatible with this? Yet God imparts the spirit and the breath of life - which returns to God. Personally , I still have hope. I think it's premature to deny *any* kind of second life ; effectively to dismiss "the spirit" and "the breath of life". How can we be Christian if we deny an eternal God?
Posted by Tristan Ewins, Monday, 8 January 2018 11:42:54 AM
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Alan B.

Nice to see you've dropped out nicknamednick, and stopped arguing with yourself.

I like your opening line:
*...I believe there is a creative force and opposite forces for good and evil. Both of which indisputably exist!...*

I read recently, a lively imaginative book on this subject, with a theory based in scripture, as it's grounding.

"Archon invasion: the rise fall and return of the Nephilim"
Rob Skiba

If you get hold of it, you'll be riveted.

His is a long historic view of exactly the forces operating between good and evil. It is the perpetual struggle depicted in scripture.

I'm also reading a juxtapositional account of why Stephen Pinker believes human civilisation is in its most peaceful moment in history.
That notion is about to be trashed, according to Skiba.
Posted by diver dan, Monday, 8 January 2018 7:48:33 PM
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