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Building in the wreckage: the reconstruction of Christian theology : Comments

By Peter Sellick, published 9/4/2014

Such a theology would abandon any idea that the thinking individual may come to clear and certain truths by means of his own reason. Descartes' promise has turned out to be absurd.

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“Firstly, it would abandon any idea that the thinking individual may come to clear and certain truths by means of his own reason. Descartes' promise has turned out to be absurd.”
And yet, we should be convinced of certain truths by means of your reason.
You would describe this as a 'reasonable' argument?

“The players in the New Testament recognize Jesus as the Christ and this happens to the most unlikely men and women. There is something in Jesus that is overwhelmingly appealing that once one has encountered Him then everything changes, it is the end of a world. There are no foundations here,...”
Actually, for a religion that now relies entirely on faith, how remarkable that those “most unlikely men and women” were persuaded by physical demonstrations; miracle after miracle. The contemporary followers of Jesus were not persuaded so much by faith in a “beautiful world” as by a man's ability to heal the sick, feed the multitudes, catch fish, walk on water, and ultimately, come back from the dead.
The evidence suggests a significant percentage of Christians -if not a majority- are more persuaded by the possibility of surviving death than creating the beautiful world Jesus dreamed of; particularly in the areas of abjuring material wealth and treating others with courtesy, charity and respect.
Posted by Grim, Wednesday, 9 April 2014 9:10:15 AM
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"While ideology would imprison us, the "way" sets us free."

It will be no surprise that for those of us unburdened by the demands of awe your free 'way' is also an ideology... yours.

"...a ground cleared of false presupposition and false foundations."

except for your own, which is obviously, no impediment for the contention of a post modern idiotheology.

Do you think it is as well that god is immortal since religions will take that long to get it right?

Best of luck.
Posted by WmTrevor, Wednesday, 9 April 2014 9:11:27 AM
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The author has written a reasoned argument to support his belief.
However, this belief is based upon the erroneous claim that an historical Jesus ever existed, thus the category of belief which he espouses, Christianity, is one of pure conjecture.
It is interesting to note in how much detail proponents can go to advance their arguments when they base vast amounts of argument around false premises.
Every person creates their own thoughts, words, and actions; the responsibility is theirs entirely, not that of some mythical supreme being.
To add a reversal to a memorable quote, "I think - therefore, I am."
"I am, therefore I think".
Posted by Ponder, Wednesday, 9 April 2014 9:14:17 AM
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What a load of waffle.

No doubt, if the author had lived a thousand years ago in Mexico, he'd have written a treatise on why, without evidence, we should construct a baseless philosophical system that leads us to maintain our belief in the feathered serpent god Quetzalcoatl.

My question for the author - if your beliefs are wrong, how would you know? If you can't answer that, then you've no business telling others to follow them.
Posted by JBSH, Wednesday, 9 April 2014 10:14:04 AM
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Descartes promise has turned out to be absurd! What an absurd thing to claim!
Peter, you clearly haven't learned to meditate, or follow the Master's advice; and, seek ye first the kingdom of heaven within?
How do you think, yours and other Masters, gained access to wisdom as old as the universe? Well?
And real meditation that reportedly can cure incurable cancer and the like, is a deep silent respectful listening and not the internal introspective dialogue your lot patently and repeatedly misrepresent it to be?
The real problems for, I believe, judgmental, misguiding control freak orthodoxy, and after pedophile priests, is people turning their backs in their literal millions and toward their own internal resources; and away from an orthodoxy, that is anything but, following in their Master's footsteps?
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Wednesday, 9 April 2014 10:39:37 AM
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Yes complete self-serving one dimensional waffle.

Waffle which is completely convicted of and stuck in the naturalistic fear saturated mortal-meat-body world view, with not even a hint of anything to do with the esoteric dimensions of the human body-mind-complex, and which certainly has nothing whatsoever to do with Being Consciousness and Bliss.

Conventional religion or the kind that Sells promotes is the cult of Narcissus that has always suppressed the ecstasy that is natural to human beings.

Religious life must be based on actual Realization and experience. Communion without difference. God-Realization without difference.

True Religion is about self-transcending God-Communion and it invades your life and necessarily requires that you change every aspect of your life. It is about entering more and more profoundly into the Well of Thoughtless Self-Radiant Being or Blissfull Consciousness Itself. The Infinite Feeling of Being, of Love-Bliss Consciousness Itself. It is vaster than the conditional domain, without center or bounds, without the slightest difference.

Tragically left-brained "theology" shuts down even the possibility of entering into that Radiant Process.
With reference to "Paul" the left-brained letter always instantaneously shuts down the Living Spirit or the intrinsic Being-Consciousness-Bliss that is our Real condition.

The body-mind is a mere appearance floating in an Infinite Sea of Undifferentiated Brightness.

Three references:
http://www.consciousnessitself.org
http://global.adidam.org/books/religion-reality
http://global.adidam.org/books/gift-of-truth-itself
Posted by Daffy Duck, Wednesday, 9 April 2014 12:18:16 PM
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