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Whitlam And His Great Legacy For Australia

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mhaze,

We measure the legislative output of all Australian
governments and PMs by polls, both of opinion, and at
the ballot box, the state of the economy, but the best
way is the ability of a government to pass legislation.
It offers a quantative measure of a government, political
party or a PM.

Someone that gets a lot of legislation passed is usually
considered to be good at getting things done.

And in only six months the Albanese government has certainly
managed to get things done - unlike the previous government.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 5 December 2022 3:25:51 PM
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I know and understand little about politics. But what I do know for sure, in 1983 a contingent of police were sent to Pine Gap, me among them, to help quell a large demonstration of women (circe 3700) who were set upon entering that facility and 'exposing' it's use for its so called, US Nuclear War.

And you got it, it was very much an initiative of the Labour Party, led by the illustrious Dr. Jim CAIRNS and his then girlfriend, Junee MAROSIE (sic). Together with a group of hardcore women, well used to disruptive and injurious behaviour, recently from Greenham Common, the US Nuclear Strike Base in the UK.

Extraordinarily we ask the Americans to help defend us pursuant to the ANZUS Treaty, yet on the other hand. we allow these troublemaking women entry permits to Oz, so they may cause no end of mayhem. My role, by arrangement with all Commissioners, was the training officer of all police represented (NTPOL SAPOL; & the AFP.) Only police women could search women, upon arrest unless special circumstances exist. And exist they surely did.

Secreted in pockets, underwear and against the genitalia, we discovered all manner of covert weaponry, eg. upright (dirty) syringes, razor blades, small knives, sharpened lengths of barbed wire, much of it dipped in faeces. And with temperatures reaching into the high thirty degrees, it really was offensive. Worse still, all of which was calculated to either harm or embarrass police in the execution of their (very unpleasant) duty. They were just doing their jobs! Unfortunately many of these young police were women, asked to do a very dirty, vary hazardous duties. I admired them greatly.

So much for the late Mr Whitlam's bleats of it being un-Australian and allowing his Labour red-necks (Dr James CAIRNS) to run around with gay abandon.
Posted by o sung wu, Monday, 5 December 2022 3:56:11 PM
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Dear O Sung Wu,

I'm not familiar with Jim Cairns or his political actions.
So I can't really comment on the horrific events you've
described. I'm sure that there would be numerous people who
think that "crime" is what the Labor Party and the "Green
Extremists do - but never the Liberal Party.

I guess it all depends on who you support as to how you're
going to judge someone's behaviour. It something has
occurred on the Liberals 'watch it's usually "administrative
glitch" or an "organisational anomaly."

A Somalia woman raped and made pregnant on Nauru is an
"administrative anomaly," not a crime. What happens on
Nauru, stays on Nauru.

The killing of Reza Barati by white persons was an
administrative "malfunction." As were the 60 other injuries,
a throat cut, an eye blinded, a number of heads bashed with
iron bars, and the list goes on.

The moral bankruptcy is quite startling. Of course this type
of behaviour should not be tolerated no matter where it occurs
and by whom. This awful mindset amongst any leadership
needs to be looked at and corrected. Heads should roll, and jobs
should be lost. Our political leadership should be made up of
men with keen consciences.

Lucky for us our current PM appears to be a man of a keen
conscience.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 5 December 2022 6:15:31 PM
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my apologies - I meant to say that our leadership should
be made up of people (not just men) with keen consciences.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 5 December 2022 6:26:19 PM
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Well, at least those women weren't the BABY KILLERS OF VIETNAM! Which Dr Jim Cairns vehemently opposed.
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 5 December 2022 8:54:03 PM
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"I'm surprised at you Paul. Didn't your gurus Lenin, Trotsky et al argue that the final aim of communism was to have the government wither away"

mhaze,

Since they are not my gurus, a backhanded way again of accusing me of being a communists, I don't know what that pair of Bolsheviks thought. Didn't your folk hero Hitler believe in "big government", after all you can't exterminate millions without the apparatus of "big government". Agree?
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 3:20:06 AM
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