Hi Foxy,

I did watch 'Insiders', interesting that a journalist would say there were weeks in the Morrison government when nothing would happen. The good thing the Albanese government has going for it, is the fact the ratbag conservative press headed by the Murdoch organisation no longer has the influence with the voting public it once had. No longer can the media barons of yesteryear hold sway and determine the outcome of elections as they did in the past.

Hi Indy,

Surly you know the difference between a system of direct aged welfare payment of tax today and pay today, and a sustainable national superannuation scheme, when today's investment gives tomorrows returns.

A well managed national superannuation with a safety net provision for unfortunates such as yourself who could not contribute for one reason or another is sustainable, and will deliver far better outcomes for all.

Foxy informs "The quote that you attributed to Thoreau is not his."

Well he did actually write those words but he acknowledged that he was paraphrasing others. Even though I mentioned that above, Foxy thinks she's discovered something new!!

mhaze says "the sky is blue". Foxy informs that mhaze needs to do more reading because, in fact, the sky is blue.

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But this is all beside the point, which is where Foxy spends most of her time.

Foxy claims here that the current government is a good government because it has passed so many bills. She has, in the past, made the same claim for the disastrous Gillard government.

What Thoreau was saying is that governments making new laws isn't an indication of good government. The opposite in fact. It's a nuanced, subtle and thoughtful view that seeks to free man from the oppression of government.

But Foxy doesn't do nuanced or subtle. And as for thoughtful.....

So what to do? Well ignore the message by attacking the messenger. Standard operating procedure for Foxy.

Hi mhaze and Foxy

As all laws were once new, then by extrapolation all laws must be bad. The idea that government is simply always oppressive is untrue, good government serves the people it does not oppress them. Thoreau would not be the first to believe government is bad based on his own personal grievances.

Dear Paul,

Well said - Thoreau was arguing for the outright
abolition of government rather than just small
government.

mhaze,

http://washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2017/09/06/who-first-said-the-best-government-is-that-which-governs-least-not-thoreau/

Wow Foxy, I had already advised that Thoreau himself said it wasn't his original thought. Yet you continue as though you need to prove it. We all know this is just so you can avoid the substantive issue - that merely counting the number of bills passed isn't a way to measure the success of a government.

But when that's all you've got.....

I'm surprised at you Paul. Didn't your gurus Lenin, Trotsky et al argue that the final aim of communism was to have the government wither away

mhaze,

Perhaps you need to re-interpret your information.

Keep trying though.