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Janus is doing Electric Trucking with battery-swap in 4 minutes, 33c / km when diesel is about 90c!
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Fester, not all energy in SA will ever be renewable, as interstate trucks and cars will still be using fossil fuel unless they ban their use or entry into SA.
Posted by Josephus, Saturday, 3 December 2022 8:30:47 AM
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What ranges do Australian Electric Semi’s need to compete with oil?
Drivers are not allowed to drive more than 100 kmh, and not allowed to do more than 11 hours 30 minutes in a shift. The maximum LEGAL distance is therefore 1150 km. https://www.truckers-trip-planning-app.com/australian-standard-hos-rule Janus has electric trucks that can take 100 tons 600 km – and then battery swap in just 4 minutes. DONE! SBS World News: http://youtu.be/4rAKqch3oMQ http://thedriven.io/2022/02/10/janus-unveils-first-electric-truck-for-australian-east-coast-battery-swap-route/ The Tesla Semi pulled 36 tonnes 800 km in one charge. But as the Truckers link above shows, drivers are LEGALLY REQUIRED to take a 15 minute break 5.5 hours (or 550 km) into their shift. Tesla have promised their Semi Megacharger will charge 640 km in half an hour. So in a 15 minute break that’s 320 km. 800 km starting range + 320 km top up is 1120 km. But wait there’s more! From Truckers again:- “A driver operating within the Australia Standard Hours of Service rules must take a mandatory 30 minute break in blocks of at least 15 continuous minutes prior to the completion of 8 hours of continuous work.” 800 km + 640 km = 1240 km – 90 km over what they are legally allowed to do anyway. THEN consider that Janus might be tempted to buy a solar farm out in their battery swap areas – because that’s like buying your own oil refinery and getting off the world oil market once and for all. THEN consider the money Toll and Linfox and Auspost have serious MONEY to put into saving money long-run by investing in either super-chargers or battery-swap warehouses and solar farms. THEN consider that battery tech is still evolving. Imagine what will emerge in the coming years as BIG OIL money switches into BIG BATTERY! THEN consider the geopolitical implications as ENORMOUS multinationals like Toll realise they can be seen as the good guys by not buying oil off all those countries that don't like us very much, like the Middle Eastern Theocracies and Russian autocrats. THEN consider whether you want your super anywhere near fossil fuel investments! Posted by Max Green, Saturday, 3 December 2022 9:38:36 AM
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Thanks Josephus. If transport were to go low carbon I would like to see it based on aluminium/air batteries made using nuclear energy, preferably Alan's thorium variety.
"THEN consider whether you want your super anywhere near fossil fuel investments!" My stranded assets are getting me a 100% return every quarter Max. Plenty of "new world" companies fail. Predicting the future is not simple. Posted by Fester, Saturday, 3 December 2022 6:12:13 PM
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Hey Max Green,
I just had a look at your converter. 1 barrel of oil equivalent = 1400000 kcal - I see it, but it still doesn't make sense. I suppose I'll need to learn more about how this works to be able to follow along with you. "Do you drink beer or wine or eat cheese or bread?" Bread and cheese yes, beer and wine, not so much. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeast "Yeasts are eukaryotic, single-celled microorganisms classified as members of the fungus kingdom." Eww.. I guess I never really thought about that to be honest. I suppose eating bacteria doesn't really sound any better or worse than eating fungus, however 'mushrooms' as fungus does come to mind. - I don't mind good plate of stroganoff, or a bit of mushroom on my pizza. As far as the 'it's not just about me' that I said earlier; I want kids in the future to still be able to enjoy pancakes with jam and cream on a Saturday morning. Bacon and eggs on Sunday morning and the good 'ol roast. I don't want kids in the future saying "what did actual real butter taste like, and never have a chance to enjoy ice-cream. - That would be a horrible world, and we'll I'd be prepared to abuse anyone that says they can't have it, sorry. - I do understand though that changes may need to be made with the world population expanding, But I'd rather see human ingenuity win, than depriving future humans of the things we currently enjoy. Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 4 December 2022 12:11:59 PM
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The Rebel Whopper - Lol.
I've never tried it honestly, but I'll tell you a story. I think it must've been 6mths or maybe a year back. I went through the local HJ drive thru, as I sometimes do. I said to the girl on the speaker "I'd like a rebel whopper please", and she says "ok, no problems" - And then I'm like "Nar just kidding, you'd have to pay me to eat that stuff" - "How many people actually eat these things?" The thought of eating it scares me, I'll stick with the beef. - Tried and true. Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 4 December 2022 12:19:12 PM
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Hi AC,
Try story, not long back I was in the local Hungry Jacks, when a barrage of buns from the food prep area landed in the customer service and dining area, obviously launched by the pimply faced adolescent 'chefs" whilst preparing the culinary delights for the clientele. I did approach the 'counter girl' requesting to; "see the duty manager", an elderly chap by the standards of the staff, probably all of 17! Informing him of the melee and subsequent bombardment i has just witnessed, un-exploded buns on the floor were evidence enough. In a voice reminiscent of Tiny Tim with laryngitis the manager lad said; "please fellas don't throw buns." I replied ; " That's it, a please don't... I'd tell em, do that again and you'll be out on your arse! and should I (Paul) lodge a complaint with HJ's HQ I'm sure YOU would be following them!". I didn't complain to HJ's HQ, on the grounds if you pay peanuts you get monkeys, and monkeys are likely to throw sh!t around from time to time. Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 4 December 2022 1:45:16 PM
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