"1.5 MILLION tons of solar panels by 2050."

Yes this is stupid.
I'd like a system where old solar panels are placed into retirement where they can keep generating electricity until they have exhausted the majority of their power generation capacity.

I also read your comment the other day about closed-loop hydro.
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=22228&page=0#387874

For some time, ever since I saw this youtube video (I'll add it below) showing how to pump water at no cost I've been interested in the idea of whether or not dams could just be refilled and the water recirculated which would make all dams just an giant battery, that will never run out of power production.

I'm tempted to build a test just out of pure curiosity.
i.e buy 2 cheap outdoor pools, a 2m x 3m rectangular outdoor pool, (simulate dam)
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/372730158920
And a second smaller shallower pool (simulate a lower holding pond)
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/374225899188
Then flow the water out and generate power like a dam does, and try and see if a device like this in the video below can pump the water from the shallow pool back up into the larger pool.

Deep Well - How to make free Energy water tank from Deep Well About 7 meters Deep
http://youtu.be/dV9B_yWgYEs

Then if it works, add more of these 'siphon pumps' to increase the flow and see what sort of power can be produced from a closed loop system.

- See this - why can't we just employ the same concept to refill the dam from a lower holding pond?
It really does make me curious as to whether or not it can work

Or use a seaside swimming pool for example and see if it can fill and drain just off the tides?
Just for research purposes... and my curiosity

Hey Aiden,
"There's no such thing as "vassal states of the west". Some countries could perhaps be described as vassal states to the USA, but Ukraine is unequivocally NOT one of those."

If you keep telling yourself this it won't make it true.

"It had the choice between becoming part of the EU or becoming a vassal state of Russia (or rejecting both options)."
That's when the US staged the coup...
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-25162563

"Its justified suspicion of Russia meant that in most of Ukraine there was overwhelming support of joining the EU."

So the Russian speaking people of eastern Ukraine supported the outlawing of their own language did they, pull the other one.

"Ukraine's 'coup' was rather like Malcolm Turnbull's 'coup' against Tony Abbott"

Malcolm Turnbull didn't admit to spending 5 billion dollars to get the job done, like Victoria Nuland did, and he didn't start shooting peaceful protesters, or burn 200 people alive in the Odessa Trade Building.

"There was no puppet installed"
Do you want me to dig up the old videos?
Victoria Nuland's released phone call is evidence they did in fact make decisions on who the incoming leader would be.

Take a look at Europe, they're all vassal states.
The cheap gas they got from Russia fundamental to their prosperity was blown up to pay 4 to 10 times the price of LNG from US and they didn't even say a thing.

European Union itself is totalitarian in its dealings with member states.

This whole thing, going all the way back to the late 2000's has been a plan by the West to oust Putin.
The US planned to overthrow Putin, chop Russia up into pieces and exploit all it's resources to fix it's own flailing economy.
This was just the first step, and the greater goal was to contain China's progress

The US just can't stomach the idea of sharing the world with anyone else.
Now we've got China openly preparing their entire nation for war.
The whole country is on board.

[Cont.]
Here's a couple of videos to refresh your memory
Nov 2013 (pre-Maidan!): Ukraine Deputy has proof of USA staging civil war in Ukraine
http://youtu.be/y9hOl8TuBUM
The transcript is in the description

F the EU: Alleged audio of US diplomat Victoria Nuland swearing
http://youtu.be/L2XNN0Yt6D8

Victoria Nuland US has invested $5 billion in Ukraine
http://youtu.be/rPVs5VuI8XI

TechCamp Kyiv 2012
http://youtu.be/bpIoBUDuL3U

Hillary was supposed to oust Putin, fyi that's the real reason why it all went to hell when Trump won the Presidency.

Hi Fester,

"When do you think the Russian forces will take Bahkmut?"

Its almost like Wagner groups private war within a war over there.
It's a slow grind, and pretty nasty from what I hear but Russians are slowly advancing, I'd expect to see a larger Russian offensive maybe in early December.
There's a lot more troops slowly coming to the front.

"I take the Maxwell Smart view and think of where Russia might have been in terms of development and prosperity had it adopted the democratic institutions of western countries."

The West are always going to try and dominate any perceived rivals, overthrow those countries and rob them of their resource wealth, and Russia has plenty of wealth that the US is eyeing off.
The West already pillaged them pretty good after the fall of the USSR, so they have form.
Democracy is the tool the West uses to overthrow other countries so moving in that direction is complicated at best for any nation wanting to preserve it's soverignty.

They're damned if they do, and damned if they don't.

"Personally, I think that Russian prosperity could have rivaled that of Norwegians. Instead, Russia is a poverty stricken gangster run terrorist state."

I do hold your sentiments in part though.
I've seen videos of small villages in Russia and the elderly people live in poverty and poor circumstances and it leaves much to be desired.
I wish they would take care of their citizens a little better.

In my opinion Russia's actually sitting in the hot seat.
It has immense amount of natural resource wealth.
'Climate Change' only makes all these Russian resources more accessible, while countries further south have food, water and energy shortages.
Droughts and rivers drying up, overpopulation

You all know I don't support the overthrows and I don't support the sanctions.
It's a shame the people of the world can't learn to get along better.

When the US economy is tied to military sales and it wont accept a multipolar world and sees fit to dictate to others, then here we are, it was always inevitable.

Hi guys,
as I just said in another thread - WWS.
Wind, Water Solar.
$100 billion and we're done.

https://reneweconomy.com.au/for-100-billion-australia-could-have-a-low-cost-and-reliable-zero-emissions-grid/

BTW - how do I format in these forums? My hyperlinks are not coming up linked - people would have to manually copy my links and paste them into their URL bar. Also, any bold? Italics? Headings? Any other formatting?

Cheers.

Hi Max Green,
To make your links work, simply take the 's' out of 'https'.
The 's' just stands for 'secure' and the link will display properly as a without the 's'.
FYI, This forum does not support or recognise those 'https' secure links.

My first comment on this thread today here was a response to your comments.
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=9978&page=0#340573