Dear mhaze,

Rubbish as usual.

I live in a semi rural shire and the domestic violence rates are over 10 times that of our close major city.

There is a lot of disadvantage and isolation in the smaller communities across the shire which are vastly made up of white families.

There is currently 100's of thousands of dollars being directed toward the issue just at a Shire level.

There have been no calls for 'white farmers' to accept it is a 'cultural issue' even though is has been ingrained over generations. Instead pathways and solutions are being offered to try and stem the violence.

Why shouldn't that be extended to aboriginal communities in the same manner without pontifications from people like you?

"I live in a semi rural shire and the domestic violence rates are over 10 times that of our close major city."

I call bullsh!t. Show us the numbers.
AFIS numbers show that domestic violence rates in regional and remote areas are higher than urban areas by a few percent only - not your fictitious 1000%.

But even if true (and did I mention its bullsh!t?) even ten times higher is dwarfed by the 35 times higher rates of domestic violence experienced by aboriginal women. ("Aboriginal women are 35 times more likely to be hospitalised due to family violence related abuse (ANROWS 2014)").

Its a cultural thing and until its recognised as a problem with the culture, nothing will change.

As we all should know by now mhaze, SR is a great writer of fairy stories.

I wonder if he gets them published in kids story books, or simply keeps them for this site?

Dear mhaze,

The figures on the rural parts of our Shire were done in the context of farmer suicide rates. In comparison to our neighbouring city they were 10.2 times the rate per 100,000. They were obtained through confidential surveys as there is a markedly greater reluctance to officially report domestic violence in rural areas.

I am not going to identify my Shire on an open forum.

But the assertion that the difference is a few percent is just ludicrous.

Here is a link to the family violence incidence reporting by Victoria police.

In 2021 the more lifestyle Macedon Ranges Shire had a rate of domestic violence incidents of 858.4 per 100,000. The neighbouring, far more rural Central Goldfields Shire, had rates of 2,451.4 per 100,000, nearly 3 times the rate.

If you again isolate the rural parts of the CGS by taking out the urban area of Maryborough the differences would climb dramatically. http://www.crimestatistics.vic.gov.au/family-violence-data-portal/family-violence-data-dashboard/victoria-police

Now where is a link to your figures saying the difference is a few percent?

It is an indisputable fact that white farmers are bashing their wives and kids at vastly higher rates than those in the cities. My grandfather who was a policeman in a small rural town use to attest to this as an ongoing issue. It is unfortunately ingrained through generations.

Why isn't this deemed a cultural issue?

Oh so we've gone from 10 times greater to 3 times greater...and I barely pushed. A couple of more posts and I could it down to parity.

http://aifs.gov.au/sites/default/files/publication-documents/cfca-resource-dv-regional_0.pdf

(Note also that rural data includes aboriginals so the difference between non-aboriginal city and rural numbers is likely lower still.)

This or that survey are valuable. But data about hospitalisations are based on actual events and are therefore unassailable...."Aboriginal women are 35 times more likely to be hospitalised due to family violence related abuse (ANROWS 2014)"... http://www.cwpracticelive.facs.nsw.gov.au/@home-truths/2015/04/16/36239/family-violence-in-aboriginal-communities

But I get that you don't want this to be true, so aboriginal women being hospitalised at horrific rates will be ignored.

People of aboriginal descent living in urban areas, and adopting the mainstream culture, do not murder their wives as do those still living in remote communities where the culture is still close to the old culture - apart from the dole, unemployment, lack of education, lack of law, plus the grog.

It's the culture, stupid. And you can blame the living-museum policies of those two bastards Whitlam and Coombes, and now the neo-Marxists in general .