A few facts: (not directly relevant)
250 years ago, Australia was occupied by relatively few people.
Those people were spread out over this vast land.
Australia being so isolated, those occupants had never had to defend their occupancy?
Enter the british. It could have been the dutch, or others, but those groups were a bit slow off the mark.
The original occupants were unable to defend their occupancy, so the british moved in to take up a largely vacant land.
That was the way of the world back then. Nobody bothered to say please or thank you.
For example, the vikings didn't, and the romans didn't, when they arrived in what is now the UK.
Similar invasion was still happening in the 20th century too. Read some history?
So the original occupants lost the limited control they had.
After that, all they could pass on to future generations was knowledge, and nothing else.
The only logical thing to do was to accept the newcomers, and adapt to their way of life.
Which many have done with great success.
Another truth is that none of the present day 'agitators' was alive 250 years ago.
We were not alive then either.
None of us have responsibility for anything that happened long ago.
None of us alive today owe any debt or apology to anyone because of anything that took place at that time.
All of us born today start with a clean slate.
We can avail ourselves of opportunities to improve our living standards, or stand in the corner and whine about perceived wrongs.
The fact is there are no wrongs.
But there are agitators trying to continue with a feud.
The absurdity of it all is almost beyong belief.
Also absurd is the fact that some are giving these false claims serious consideration.
What happened to truth and logic?

Hi Foxy

Yep - Angry Lidia is doing genuinely First Nation people a disservice through her inner-city Melbourne extremist approach.

More mainly-Whites like Lidia

(checkout her Caucasian photo http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lidia_Thorpe )

will lose the Voice Referendum for the legit First Nation people who are suffering.

Mavers

Hi again Foxy

On Stan's article, see my comment http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=9888&page=0#338623

on the main Voice thread.

Cheers Mavs

In Hong Kong, Thousands of people, mostly young, joined queues hundreds of metres long for hours in sweltering temperatures to record their condolences at the death of Queen Elizabeth at the British Consulate.

Foxy

They're not "asking to be heard", they're asking for a treaty.

So the treating sovereigns, the parties to the treaty, would be who, for the Aboriginal party?

You have already admitted in advance that any part that the Crown had in constituting or treating with that party would be illegitimate, along with your occupation of your home.

As for their voice being heard, don't be ridiculous. They've got the ABC and SBS trumpeting their cause on all channels and stations for at least the last 50 years, plus two major political parties ditto, plus a whole slew of minor parties, plus scores of bureaucracies, devoted to nothing but, plus the schools, universities... - what are you talking about?

And if you're right, then why haven't you left the land that, according to you, you are criminally occupying?

It's no use *emoting* at me for merely pointing out that the idea is a confused jumble of self-contradictions that don't make sense.

Well, maybe Aunty Lidia ain't that bad http://greens.org.au/vic/person/lidia-thorpe .

Greens vote fer-a and not ALL Greens are Bad, OK?! http://youtu.be/KeprIqxrDQo