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Uncivilised world! A useless UNO!!

The Russian-Ukrainian war has been raging for many months. Loss of life and property is being caused with impunity. All this happens in the name of nations and their sovereignty. This cannot be considered an act of a civilised society. But still, the world has allowed this to happen. Tolerance for this brutal and inhuman happening in Ukraine and Russia is is perplexing.
Russia and the developed world resort to economic sanctions against each other instead of taking concrete actions to stop the war. This only demonstrates how the 'rich' countries have become adept at making money at the expense of other people's welfare and, in the process, have lost their human face. They are obsessed with the idea of "their nation" and "their people". They make use of other nations to prosper but fail to understand the interests of those nations that contributed to their development. It appears that the concept of nations has blinded their conscience.

This is supposed to be a civilised world, having war crime tribunals and many such things. The media is busy only showing what is happening in the war zone and boasting of their great capability to go to the war zone and report. They simply do not understand their social responsibility to end the war through concerted efforts to educate the people of not only the affected countries but the entire world.

The developed world should stop arming warring nations as a first step. It is high time that the world body enacts a law to prohibit the supply of arms to countries in times of war. But, it remains a silent spectator. Simply issuing statements by the UNO chief is not going to help. Let the World Body show some grit to warn the fighting nations.
Veto power to a select group of nations is a great aberration in a civilised world. These so-called developed nations develop what is described as a "big brother" attitude and show little concern for the rest of the world.

Now we can only exclaim: uncivilised world! Useless UNO!!

Ezhil,
So you want to deny nations under attack the means to defend themselves?
In other words you want to reward the aggressors by making it easier for them to win the war.
That will of course encourage them to invade more countries.

It's Nato, egged-on by the US or vice versa that caused that war !

Supplying arms to a smaller or a weak nation by powerful rich countries, in war, can only prolong the war with more loss of life and property. How can we allow such an eventuality? What is the purpose of UNO?The fanaticism of modern concepts such as nation, religion, region, etc should not be allowed to kill people. Wrong belief systems should not be allowed to take the lives of people for granted. Those concepts were created to protect and maintain the well-being of humans. But what do see in reality? They have been the cause of wars and many other problems.
Politics in the world thrives on the pseudo-social values prevalent in society. We must see that human values reign supreme over fanaticism.
That alone can at least reduce wars if not prevent the skirmishes.

Yes, Indyvidual. You are correct. Let us talk about humanism over Nato or other unscientific segregations and divisions. Societies throughout the world should be enlightened on humanism, moral values and the ill effects of materialism. war is the result of the bogus prestige of the so-called nations and religions based on those pseudosocial values.

We can, and should, all have our say; but this is extremely naive and impractical.

ttbn
Man should evolve to become a better human being. That does not happen because of pseudosocial values prevalent in society. Unless we shed our fanaticism and fundamentalism caused by religion, language, nation and the like we will not be able to avoid wars. We have to respect the truth. Truth may be bitter for the uncivilised. But can we say truth is impractical?

Ezhil

Rather than casting aspersions on my humanity, try thinking for youself rather than copying out claptrap you don't understand any better than the originator of such nonsense did.

ttbn,

Institutions such as religion, region, nation, castes (India)etc are found to be the major causes of friction between different denominations. This truth should be brought to light prominently. Ignoring this basic truth and continuing as if nothing is amiss will certainly not be a rational approach. Telling the people and the nations to follow the truth cannot be construed as an impractical exercise

How can we allow such an eventuality?

Well I'm happy to see Ukraine destroyed as a result of stupid western policies.
Watching the EU, the UK and the US pay a price for their own stupid sanctions is a sweet bonus.

Bad news is the West is getting closer to all out war with China, Russia, Nth Korea, Iran and who knows who else
Even worse, all this is a part of someones sick plan all along.
And it will probably go nuclear, most will be vapourised while those who started it will be safe in their underground bunkers.

Armchair,
This is not the occasion to be happy. Let us not worry about the different blocks that people have created. War is inhuman.

LET US SAY ‘NO’ TO WAR

When we fight a war
How civilised we are!
Destructive wars are
Man wages them what for?

Millions get killed
Many perish in their prime
Billions go handicapped
Is not war a crime?

Misuse of science for destruction
And making weapons to kill
In the name of nations’ construction
Shame, it continues still!

Man hatched the nations
To satisfy his egoism
To safeguard narrow intentions
Invented patriotism,

If nationalism and patriotism
Throw to wind humanism
Bury those narrow isms,
Develop internationalism

Let us not any more glorify
War as patriotism
The gullible people to gratify
Invoking chauvinism,

When we fight a war
How civilised we are!
Let us say ‘No’ to war
And only peace we are for.

Hi Ezhil,

I don't like to see anyone suffer, let alone die, but unfortunately it seems that this war in Ukraine had to happen, thanks to the West.
My position is the same as its always been, long before the war in Ukraine started.
- That is, I don't support sanctions as it's collective punishment on entire nations, and I don't support overthrowing the governments of other peoples countries.
This means that by default, I support Russia because the West overthrew the government of Ukraine in 2014.
Most of all, I do not support the globalists, who seek to destroy all countries sovereignty and make us all vassal states under globalism.
I've held this position for many years and have not swayed from what I believe in.

So when Putin says things like this below:
- Then I support him, not the West.

"These objective processes are being opposed by the Western globalist elites, who provoke chaos, fanning long-standing and new conflicts and pursuing the so-called containment policy, which in fact amounts to the subversion of any alternative, sovereign development options. Thus, they are doing all they can to keep hold onto the hegemony and power that are slipping from their hands; they are attempting to retain countries and peoples in the grip of what is essentially a neocolonial order. Their hegemony means stagnation for the rest of the world and for the entire civilisation; it means obscurantism, cancellation of culture, and neoliberal totalitarianism.

They are using all expedients. The United States and its vassals grossly interfere in the internal affairs of sovereign states by staging provocations, organising coups, or inciting civil wars. By threats, blackmail, and pressure, they are trying to force independent states to submit to their will and follow rules that are alien to them. This is being done with just one aim in view, which is to preserve their domination, the centuries-old model that enables them to sponge on everything in the world. But a model of this sort can only be retained by force."

Watch the video or read the full transcript here:
http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/transcripts/69166

As an afterthought Ezhil,
The US, NATO and the collective West know that Ukraine cannot win this war.
- But they couldn't care less how many people in Ukraine die.
They want to inflict as much damage upon Russia as they can anyway.

Ezhil,
Guns'N'Roses put it better:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isCh4kCeNYU

Getting back to your earlier comments, although supplying arms to the invaded nation may prolong one war, it can change the outcome of the war (despite the claims of proper geese like Armchair) and will discourage future invasions.

You ask "What is the purpose of UNO?". The purpose of that card game is to entertain the players. I've never known anyone except you refer to the UN as UNO, so why are you so out of step with the rest of the world?
As for what the purpose of the UN is, its main purpose is to prevent war. Unfortunately it was hamstrung from the start, as there was a lot of suspicion of it, and surrendering too much power to it was seen as a far bigger threat than giving it too little power. You keep rabbiting on about how we can allow war - but how can we disallow it? Short of going to war we don't have the means to directly control other nations. We can negotiate, but when so many nations' leaders don't care about right and wrong, negotiation alone doesn't always deliver a good outcome.

ISTM the best we can do is promote international law, and do what we can to punish violations of it.

Most of the countries in the world are managed by ineligible people. The so-called rulers are just basal politicians and can never be considered leaders. These politicians are more worried about various isms like nationalism, communalism, casteism(INDIA), language chauvinism, regionalism, etc. as they derive their power from invoking such narrow concepts among the voters. They see people as voters rather than as people with humanistic aspirations. Only when people of the world become civilised true leaders can emerge in all parts of the world. Let us promote good human qualities among people to see a better world for future generations.

Alexander Dugin's daughter killed in bomb-blast.

http://www.9news.com.au/world/russia-ukraine-update-car-blast-kills-daughter-of-russian-known-as-putins-brain/6d27ccd2-a642-4a05-a074-98de04509f5d

>>Mykhailo Podolyak, an adviser to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, denied Ukrainian involvement, saying on national TV that "We are not a criminal state, unlike Russia, and definitely not a terrorist state".<<

Looks like a Hit-list to me.
http://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/w/ukraine-publishes-list-of-undesirables-accused-of-supporting-the-russian-invasion

>>Italian journalist Andrea Rocchelli was added to the list following the Maidan coup in 2014.

He was killed by the Ukrainian army the same year and a file was found in the Myrotvorets Centre with the word “liquidated” written over his photograph.

'Mr Rocchelli was accused of collaborating with 'pro-Russian terrorist organisations.'

The Brown list has been condemned as a new attack on civil and social rights which critics say were being systematically suppressed in Ukraine even before the Russian invasion.

The list names a large number of communists, journalists, academics and leftist politicians and invites people to submit names for inclusion.

Canadian journalist Eva Bartlett has claimed to be on a Ukrainian government kill list since reporting from the Donbass region.<<

Ukrainian 'Undesireables' Hit List
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myrotvorets

Ukraine adds Gerhard Schroeder, Victor Orban to Hit List
http://www.rferl.org/a/germany-calls-kyiv-remove-enemy-of-the-state-list-mirotvorez-peacemaker-website-after-schroeder-listed/29603746.html

You all realise that Ukraine has been attacking the largest Nuclear Power Plant in Europe, with the Wests consent.
They also recently killed 100 men from their 53rd Motorised Brigade who retreated as an example to other fighters, and they targetted their own Azov fighters a month back who surrendered at Avolstal in Mariupol, because they were sharing info with Russians about how they'd been ordered to fire on civillians in Donetsk Peoples Republic.

The whole west is paying a huge financial price for defending Ukraine, the most corrupt government in Europe which the West overthrew in 2014.

- Thanks Victoria Nuland -

Are you lot who are defending the ongoing war and shipment of weapons to Ukraine going to start sending out cheques to people who cant afford to put fuel in their cars, run heaters to stay warm, or buy food for themselves and their kids to eat?

- Thanks so much for increasing the cost of living on Australians who can least afford it -

Russia has 44 million people and is manufacturing and using 70,000 rounds of ammunition per day, inc rocket artillery. If Russia can do that, then what can China do, with 2 billion people when it is a base for global manufacturing?

Ukraine is losing half of its infantry numbers who often retreat in terror and refuse to fight, without even seeing a Russian or Allied soldier.

Many companies have ceased operating in Russia.
The West foolishly thought that depriving Russians of McDonalds and Starbucks would collapse their economy, but the West is starting to face the harsh truth that they needed Russia for energy, food, fertilizers and metals etc, much more than Russia actually needed the West.
The US may soon default on it's foreign debt.

Russia is going to hold a war tribunal at some point, (like Nuremberg) for crimes against humanity, and it's likely that western countries including the US, UK, Europe will be held responsible for their part of this mess.
The west overthrew the country in 2014, and supplied weapons that were used against the people of Donetsk and Luhansk for 8 years after the Maiden.

NATO after it's summit in Madrid, and invitation of leaders of south east Asian nations has shown that it is expanding further into our neck of the woods.

Pro Azov Ukrainians deface Australian WWII diggers graves with Ukrainian flags, swastikas
http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2022/05/war-cemetery-in-nijmegen-sprayed-with-anti-russian-texts/
"The location is the last resting place for 1,642 soldiers, mainly British but also Canadians, Australians and other allies."

http://youtu.be/zsO-wu8ubnU

Meanwhile Australia sends $388 million in military assistance to Ukraine.
http://www.pm.gov.au/media/visit-kyiv-and-further-australian-support-ukraine

Without arms supplies Ukraine can't continue the war.
Without an economy Ukraine can't continue the war.

We see arms supplies are dwindling, and the economy in Ukraine is collapsing.
- And meanwhile the European economies are coming under increased pressure.

What have you all achieved by supporting this war?

You have 250,000 dead and wounded, limbless broken men.
Sons, Fathers, Husbands, Brothers, many of whom are conscripts.
Regular people like you and me, not military trained.
Women, kids and elderly too.

If you saw with your own eyes what was happening on the front lines under a barrage of Russian rocket artillery, you'd be calling for an end to the war and push for a negotiated settlement right now, as I advised months ago.

Absolutely horrific scenes that would make any normal person sick.
- Ideologues, at the expense of other peoples lives.