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If not now, when?

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So we don't know if it'll be elected.
We don't know who will be eligible to vote if it is elected.
We don't know who'll be eligible to contest the vote if it is elected.
We don't know how the members will be appointed if its not elected.
We don't know who'll be eligible to sit if its appointed.
We don't know who'll be doing the appointing - PM, Cabinet, House, Senate?
We don't know how it'll be funded.
We don't know who'll determine the level of funding.
We don't know how the consensus 'Voice' will be determined.
We don't know how the Voice will be communicated to the Parliament eg via the PM or GG or directly.
We don't know who or how the staff of the Voice will be determined and paid.
We don't know if the government of the day can change the membership.
We don't know if the government of the day can change the rules.
We don't know who will audit and adjudicate on the funding of the Voice.
We don't know how members can be removed for malfeasance.
We don't know.....etc etc.

But 73% of ABC viewers are on board. That sounds about right and amply reflects the thought processes of the woke. Don't ask questions - just nod as required
Posted by mhaze, Monday, 1 August 2022 1:34:23 PM
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"But 73% of ABC viewers are on board. That sounds about right and amply reflects the thought processes of the woke. Don't ask questions - just nod as required"

We know it's a voice, it will have no power. Your questions are largely irrelevant. Just admit you're a racist.
Posted by The voice of reason, Monday, 1 August 2022 1:35:38 PM
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Now that the draft wording is available it can
be discussed with greater authority and clarity.
The next stage in the process is one of consultation
and education so that the Australian people can feel
confident that they are well informed when they come
to vote.

There is evidence that a constitutionally enshrined
Voice can pass a referendum. A survey of poll data
since 2017 conducted by the Centre for Aboriginal
Economic Policy Research shows that 75% of voters
support the Voice.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 1 August 2022 1:50:38 PM
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The 73% figure merely shows that 73% of Australians are complacent dills who say what they think Big Brother wants to hear.

When the dills are in the voting booth, free of the scaremongering and bullying by the Marxist cancel culture, the media, and the political class, their answers to whether or not a racist attempt to treat 3% of the population differently for purely racist reasons, might be quite different.

There is no reason given in the "simple" question why they should vote yes, and most of them would not have been taking notice of what has been said or written about the subject (most people only take notice of what affects them directly), so their answers should be 'no' to be on the safe side.

Most referenda fail to pass. Even dills won’t be fooled by Albanese’s disingenuous whinnying about their 'generosity'; and a lot of dirty water has passed under the bridge since the last race-based referendum, which did have righteousness and common sense on its side, unlike this one
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 1 August 2022 2:17:51 PM
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"When the dills are in the voting booth, free of the scaremongering and bullying by the Marxist cancel culture,"

I love watching right wing scum cry. Labor are right wing. Even the Greens are not Marxists. Cancel culture does not exist. You are mad people have the right to speak againt hate and reject it.

It's interesting that old white people are deeply upset that white people are not special any more, gay people are allowed to exist, and so on. We will not have a society until boomers die out but they are increasingly irrelevant as their numbers dwindle. It's sad. Imagine being the generation that taught your grandkids to hate you?
Posted by The voice of reason, Monday, 1 August 2022 2:20:02 PM
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"BLAXIT"

First coined here, means exiting from the egalitarian non-race based Australia we support. I don't support BLAXIT just as I didn't support the simple Brexit blank cheque question.

Albo's trick seems putting up a simple emotional referendum slogan:

"Do you support an alteration to the constitution that establishes an Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice?"

Which turns out to be a blank cheque giving 2 votes to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders.

One vote for the Federal House/Senate, like everyone else.

But a second vote to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders only to
vote in Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders Representives (BLAXITEERS) who can, effectively veto any legislation that applies to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders - which is pretty much ALL legislation

The Federal Budget applies to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders, So logically BLAXITEERS could hold up the Budget until it provided greater benefits for a minority race-based aristocracy, each year.

Why is Albo withholding the details he'll use to fill in the BLAXIT referendum blank cheque?

Would we trust Parliament to fill out a BLAXIT blank cheque?

It was good to remove White Australia race based laws but are Black Australia race based laws a good idea?

When "BLAXIT" turns sour Albo's Labor will have done enough damage to be rightly voted out next Election.
Posted by Maverick, Monday, 1 August 2022 2:41:34 PM
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