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Voice of an idiot,

Your first lie is"The outbreak appears to be in the gay community, but they don't do anything straight people don't do, there's no cause and effect here"

Your second lie is"Most people under 40 are having anal sex or want to."
Posted by shadowminister, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 2:00:52 PM
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"Your first lie is"The outbreak appears to be in the gay community, but they don't do anything straight people don't do, there's no cause and effect here"

Your second lie is"Most people under 40 are having anal sex or want to."

The first, actual experts have been clear that everything I said is true. The virus is not sexually transmitted, it's simply transmitted by close contact. Monkeypox is not an STD, so the sexuality of those suffering it is not a vector.

The second - Christ you are useless. I get no one in the nursing home has butt sex and I get you can't read, but, honestly

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4949144/

This is 2016, and it was about half of people then. I said 'people under 40' in my first statement. Just like oral sex went mainstream in the 80s and 90s, anal has gone mainstream this century. In fact, I've read articles that it's women driving the increase, now. Of course, most porn includes anal, and most guys watch porn, which has also served to normalise it. If you bothered to look past your own views and experiences, you might learn something.
Posted by The voice of reason, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 2:04:45 PM
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Dear Voice of Reason,

«You think that pride is about anger?»

No: pride is pride, I just think that the rainbow movement is an expression of anger, not of pride.

«I hate bigotry, true'»

While the issue of bigotry was never raised, not with me anyway, that shows again that your ideas originate in your emotions, not your reasoning.

«Irrelevant. They are safer because other people stand up.»

This is your hypothesis, but I believe that homosexuals are safer today simply because the wheels of time turned, because people found better things to do than criticising and chastising others, also as a developing result of the contraceptive pill where other sexual practices were no longer demonized, also due to the New-Age movement (by boomers...), also people had better things to do with their money than keeping and feeding homosexuals in prisons, also because they meanwhile found new scapegoats.

It reminds of me the king from Astroid 325 (http://www.angelfire.com/hi/littleprince/framechapter10.html) claiming that the sun obeys him, like organising a group to stand in the meadow at dawn, singing and dancing while calling on the sun to rise, then cheering themselves up and patting their own shoulders when it does.

«So you don't hate socialism. thank you.»

You did not ask me about socialism - you asked me, "Why is it coercive to give people food and shelter" and my answer is definitely a NO. Most times it is even virtuous! (there are exceptions, but I digress)

«I am 53. I will grow old without becoming trash»

Indeed, none of us grows to become trash, but our bodies inevitably will become just that. Unless one attained rare and profound wisdom, the thoughts about that happening are naturally very scary, it is not something to be ashamed of.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 2:21:50 PM
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"No: pride is pride, I just think that the rainbow movement is an expression of anger, not of pride."

Why is it, boomer? What are gay people mad at?

"While the issue of bigotry was never raised, not with me anyway, that shows again that your ideas originate in your emotions, not your reasoning."

Because I am a decent person?

"This is your hypothesis, but I believe that homosexuals are safer today simply because the wheels of time turned, because people found better things to do than criticising and chastising others,"

They found new people to hate, like Muslims, because of efforts to make it not OK to hate gays. And plenty still hate gays, marriage equality barely got a majority vote.

"You did not ask me about socialism - you asked me, "Why is it coercive to give people food and shelter" and my answer is definitely a NO. Most times it is even virtuous! (there are exceptions, but I digress)"

That's what socialism is, dummy.

"Indeed, none of us grows to become trash, but our bodies inevitably will become just that. Unless one attained rare and profound wisdom, the thoughts about that happening are naturally very scary, it is not something to be ashamed of."

i have joined groups online dedicated to my generation, wanting to simply reminisce about growing up in 1982. Instead those groups are full of racism and trans and homophobia, because many of my generation appear now to be trash
Posted by The voice of reason, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 2:25:33 PM
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Dear Voice of Reason,

«Why is it, boomer? What are gay people mad at?»

That is totally besides the point: even if their madness/anger is legitimate, my point was the fact that they are mad/angry, rather than proud - and you just concurred.

Do you realise that ordinary good people do not like to be around angry people?

Myself included, I discriminate against angry people, I tend to keep away from them, I tend to be uninterested in whatever they have to say, regardless whether it is right or wrong.

Does such anger serve their purpose, or yours? It does not befit your nickname, "Voice of Reason".

«Because I am a decent person?»

Does being a decent person make you hate?
What's next - can being decent also make you murder?
Blinded by anger, you might even, in the name of decency, kill people whom you mistakenly consider to be bigots.

«marriage equality barely got a majority vote.»

That was because of the absurd logic-defying wording of the question.

«That's what socialism is, dummy.»

Hmmm, I never heard that definition or anything close to it.
If that indeed is the case, if socialism is synonymous with kindness and charity, then these dummy socialists are the worst of the worst in public-relations. Had they just explained it as you explain it to me, convincingly, then they would easily get nearly 100% of the votes.

«many of my generation appear now to be trash»

Yes, appearances. If you want any sympathy, if you want to be effective at all, if you want to be listened to, to have any communication skills, then you must remember that even if there is trash in their minds, they themselves are never trash! that even while their minds could be dirty, no dirt can touch themselves who remain forever pure. To gain any cooperation you need not side with their trashy minds, but you do certainly need to side with them who have that mind, you need to note that difference.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 12:16:06 AM
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Ignoring all your other drivel

"Hmmm, I never heard that definition or anything close to it.
If that indeed is the case, if socialism is synonymous with kindness and charity, then these dummy socialists are the worst of the worst in public-relations. Had they just explained it as you explain it to me, convincingly, then they would easily get nearly 100% of the votes."

The greens got a record vote because young people didn't live through cold war propaganda, and take the time to read and learn things. Home ownership exists for the middle class in the West due to a government program to try to counter the growing popularity of socialism at the time. Socialism is why women can vote and you get weekends and sick leave.

Read a book.
Posted by The voice of reason, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 5:45:44 AM
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