Some are not getting a jersey! In a rambling apology the Manly NRL team coach Des Hasler, and team captain Daly Cherry-Evans resorted to quoting Ghandi when making a statement on behalf of the footy club about the team wearing a rainbow coloured jersey for Thursday nights game against the battling Roosters. Seems its all about inclusion and diversity, when it comes to the bash and barge of footy these days. Although seven Sea Eagles will not be partaking in the free-for-all as they refuse to be included, and I assume they will be sitting on the sideline dressed in somewhat sombre colours, no rainbows for those guys.

What was intended to be "Women in League" round, yes the girls have come out of the kiosk, and away from their pie warmers, and are now playing the game with all its ferocity. Its turned into a bun fight over inclusion and diversity. Manly wants everyone to know they include LGBTQI+ folk, and all those other minorities too numerous to mention. However its seems not everyone at the Sea Eagles wants to be included, for some Manly players, its not just football on Sundays, its prayer and the Bible as well.

My last word on the subject; "Go the Bunnies!", who are not in all this kerfuffle, and are heading in the right direction at the back end of the season!

BTW, the Manly Sea Eagles are not travailing well this year, and things just got a whole lot worse. This week, me thinks the Rooster by 30!, in a one side contest.

It's sad to see the name of Jesus dragged through the mud by hateful right wing reactionaries, but, here we are. These minor dramas actually mean nothing. They don't change how much Australia is becoming more accepting and inclusive. Gay and trans folks everywhere have widespread community support. A jersey is just an attempt to commercialise that support, it's not the support itself

Its sad to see sport being politicised into statements of ones gender and sexualitity or support of such.

What next? Big Brother : Gay and Trans Footy Players Uncensored Wed 8:30 on Ten.
Hard Pass. I don't care what other uses you have for your bum.

Bravo to the seven players who refused to wear a rainbow jumper. I believe that they were Christians of 'islander' origin. White Australians are too scared, or too lacking in values, to take such a stand.

I have no interest in sport, but those who do want to be entertained, not have every wacko fad going these days shoved in their faces.

Players were not consulted by management on the rainbow jumper wearing, and the silly exercise in "tolerance" had no tolerance for those players who disagreed. The 7 cannot play. The Twitter nutters are full of contempt for them. The media is trying to shame them.

At least the coach apologised for his and the club's stupid, divisive woke virtue signalling. "The club has made an error, and we will learn", he said.

This should draw our attention as to why, just in order to play a sport, players are forced to wear specific clothings, more so clothings with advertisements - an evil practice by itself, more so clothes that advertise unwholesome things which they could morally oppose.

In this particular case, players were forced to wear the colours of a political movement, one they might not agree with. Finally they refused, but they ought to have refused to wear advertisements in the first place.

The rainbow flag does not represent homosexuals, bisexuals and transgender people, nor is it about inclusion of them who are already included anyway - it represents an attempt to politicise their sexual tendencies. I do have homosexual and transgender people in my family and they are fully accepted like any other good person: nobody in my family likes them less or more because of their sexuality - why would we care? they just live their lives peacefully and never go about demonstrating, harassing others or otherwise making a fuss about their personal preferences. They are the silent majority, they have nothing to do with this rainbow thing.

"The club has made an error, and we will learn"

That was just a small error: the club has made a much bigger error when they started expecting their players to wear advertisements - when will they ever learn?!

ttbn,

"The club has made an error, and we will learn".....At least the coach apologised for his and the club's stupid, divisive woke virtue signalling.

Did you watch the press conference, if you did your comprehension of what Hasler said is lacking, or you're lying. Hasler was in favour of the expression of pride by the players by wearing the rainbow jumper, but said the club had not handled it well, by not consulting with the players and football staff beforehand. Hasler didn't apologise for any virtue signalling as you put it, he apologised for the clubs handling of the matter.

Yuyutsu,

I agree with your comment that it was advertising a political stance, and not about homosexual people at all. I know reasonably well only one homosexual couple, and I know that they neither want nor approve of such pointless virtue signalling. Their lives are there own, and they do not need such crude 'recognition'. I might know other people of the same persuasion, but I am not in the habit of enquiring after others people’s sexuality, nor do I offer any information on my own. All this 'coming out' business, and forcing public recognition of something that should be very private, between two people, is crude and rude. No good will come of it.

I'm not into footy so my knowledge of how clubs work
is limited. However the players should have been
consulted about the jerseys and a vote taken.
It is a pity that this has now received so much
publicity and has become so divisive.

It's said that the concept of race only matters to racists so what does it mean when the industry advertises and promotes socially destructive issues like booze and gambling?

Hi rache,

I guess money talks. When it comes to sponsorships.
Ethics and morals don't count for very much it seems
and sport is after all getting more and more commercialized.

Hi Foxy,

I generally agree, but a vote was not necessary, if the hierarchy of the club wanted to express "diversity and inclusion", and if jersey wearing was the way to do it, then ask those players who wanted to participate in this gesture to be involved. Instead of achieving its aim of inclusion, its created division.

A bit of irony. Back in the day which Sydney rugby league club was known for it racists attitude towards "black" players, not having one on their books? Hint, it was a silver tail mob north of the harbour.

":Hasler didn't apologise for any virtue signalling as you put it, he apologised for the clubs handling of the matter."

As far as I can tell, the club thought they could do something harmless, and obvious, and that most of society supports but there were some hateful religious fundemantalists in the team who made a fuss?

This gay 'pride' business has been a load of crap from the beginning. What’s there to be proud about! There is no reason for homosexuals and lesbians to be 'proud'. If they are happy and comfortable with what they are, good luck to them. But proud? Come on! It's as silly as heterosexual 'pride' would be. All their 'advertising' and squealing points to a bunch of show ponies desperate for attention.

An individual case recently came in the form of a soccer player, who 'came out' as a homsexual. He didn't have to do that. Who cares anyway. He could have just got with his life as he had been. But, oh no! He had to tell everybody. Then he spent the usual seven days that the public remains interested in anything whining about the nasty things said to him and about him, with his club huffing and puffing on his behalf. He has disappeared from the spotlight he shone on himself, and will never be heard of again.

These people have far more problems than than their sexual preferences.

"This gay 'pride' business has been a load of crap from the beginning. What’s there to be proud about! There is no reason for homosexuals and lesbians to be 'proud'. If they are happy and comfortable with what they are, good luck to them. But proud? Come on! It's as silly as heterosexual 'pride' would be. All their 'advertising' and squealing points to a bunch of show ponies desperate for attention."

Being gay was illegal in your lifetime. Cops killed people for being gay in your lifetime. Pride started as protests against this sort of violence. Stonewall was a riot. Educate yourself

Until the current generation of old people die out, there's still going to be hostility to homosexuals. The marriage equality vote passed, but not by as much as we'd like. So 'coming out' doens't mean making a pass at you. It means being brave enough to be who you are, regardless of the hostility that still creates.

Hi V of R ,

Well said. Many people don't understand what some
gays had to go through. And I guess they never
will. I remember a boss I once had asking me,

"You do realize that I'm gay don't you>"

"I replied yes, so what?"

He said, "But you're flirting with me."

I said, "You're a very attractive bloke, and besides
I like you."

"Should I treat you differently?"

I ended up getting a hug from him and to this day he's
one of my best friends. My wish for him is to find a
worthy partner who truly loves him. He deserves nothing less.

I suspect the error that the Manly management made was in just assuming that the players would simply do as they're told. Leaders of all strips have become so used to Australians just bowing to their 'betters', that it wouldn't have occurred that some might still have principles they are prepared to defend.

Remember when homosexual marriage was the last great divide? Agree to that one last thing and we'll all live in harmony and peace we were assured. But that was never the end-game. Not only must we allow the homosexual community to pretend to be the equivalent of the rest, we must be forced to loudly extol the lifestyle.

Elsewhere in these pages, was a discussion about removing 'mother' as a valid term. This is part of the assault. If male homosexual families can't have a mother then no one can - its only fair. Agree to that and we can all live in harmony....why are you laughing?

Why do these players wear jumpers with adverts on them? Because they want to be paid 6 figure salaries. Surprisingly, wearing logos for Nick the local butcher doesn't pay as well as Harvey Norman.

"Remember when homosexual marriage was the last great divide? Agree to that one last thing and we'll all live in harmony and peace we were assured. But that was never the end-game. Not only must we allow the homosexual community to pretend to be the equivalent of the rest, we must be forced to loudly extol the lifestyle."

Being gay is not a lifestyle. Different gay people, like different straight people, have very different lives. Your words betray your bigotry. Gay people ARE the same as everyone else. They do the same things. There is no such thing as gay sex. There is not one thing that makes gay people different from straight people except one detail about who they love. Why does that matter?

"Elsewhere in these pages, was a discussion about removing 'mother' as a valid term. This is part of the assault. If male homosexual families can't have a mother then no one can - its only fair. Agree to that and we can all live in harmony....why are you laughing?"

This is all a bizarre boomer fantasy. Words are not being removed. There is no government body to police speech, you can use any words that you like. They WERE using the term 'birthing parent' in hospital to be more inclusive, but it's just a word. No one was pretending that most parents are not a straight couple, of course they are. It's just that those people are not the only people who matter or count, any more.

I can only imagine that the people who rant all day about homosexuals have something to hide.....

No child needs a mother or a father BTW.

I agree with mhaze's contention that the Manly club expected everyone to fall into line with their virtue signalling. The bullies have become used to not having any opposition.

This is why it is so heartening to have the 'magnificent seven' put it up them.

It was also heartening to see Pauline Hanson's refusal to go along with the gutless parliamentary herd's pandering to the smoking/welcoming nonsense of people claiming to represent 3% of the population, most of whom had never heard of these things, which are an invention of a few Blacktivists, and nothing to do with aboriginal culture.

"I agree with mhaze's contention that the Manly club expected everyone to fall into line with their virtue signalling. The bullies have become used to not having any opposition.

This is why it is so heartening to have the 'magnificent seven' put it up them.

It was also heartening to see Pauline Hanson's refusal to go along with the gutless parliamentary herd's pandering to the smoking/welcoming nonsense of people claiming to represent 3% of the population, most of whom had never heard of these things, which are an invention of a few Blacktivists, and nothing to do with aboriginal culture."

Pauline Hanson is human garbage. People who don't want to 'pander' to others (that is, show kindness) are thankfully dying out.

It's interesting that fascists think they are bullied if they get asked to not be cruel to people they don't know.....

The percentage of people with non-binary sexual orientation is uncertain. However, in a just society everyone should be treated fairly regardless of their percentage of the population.

" Gay people ARE the same as everyone else. "

So there's no reason to 'celebrate' (now there's a misnomer) pride days/weeks/months n'est pas?

"There is no such thing as gay sex."

If you think straights are having the same sex as homosexuals, then you're doing it wrong.

" There is no government body to police speech..."

Since I never suggested there was, why mention it?

"you can use any words that you like. "

Oh, so there'd be no problem if I referred to male homosexuals as poofters or shirt-lifters? Words don't get removed by government fiat, but by social pressure. If you missed that, you're way behind the game.

"No child needs a mother or a father BTW."

True. But any kid raised by its biological mother AND father, will, on average, do better in life.

I have nothing against the homosexual community. I haven't the slightest concern about what goes on behind closed doors. But, equally, I have no desire to extol that community or, more exactly, the attempts to shame others into admiring that community

It gets better. Senator Jacinta Price has sided with Pauline Hanson, saying that there is too much virtue signalling. I suppose she will now be called a coconut, by the same Marxists who called Hanson a racist. They don't like black people who don't agree with them.

Dear rache,

Spot on.

These so called Christians are prepared to were tops advertising gambling companies but not a gay pride top. I suspect there was a lot of money involved in the former.

If this lot showed some consistence in their public moralising I would have a bit more respect for them.

But right now very little I'm afraid.

In her maiden speech, Senator Price said:

"I personally have had more than my fill of being symbolically recognised. It has become a racial stereotype that we Australians of Indigenous heritage should belong to and support the Labor Party. It was an exchange with the former leader of the Labor Party Bill Hayden, who conveyed this very stereotype, that compelled Neville Bonner to confirm his membership within the Liberal Party of Australia".

"The rainbow flag does not represent homosexuals, bisexuals and transgender people, nor is it about inclusion of them who are already included anyway - it represents an attempt to politicise their sexual tendencies. I do have homosexual and transgender people in my family and they are fully accepted like any other good person: nobody in my family likes them less or more because of their sexuality - why would we care? they just live their lives peacefully and never go about demonstrating, harassing others or otherwise making a fuss about their personal preferences. They are the silent majority, they have nothing to do with this rainbow thing."

I love when boomers cry because their world is dying. I love killing it.

The Manly lads were able to salvage some PRIDE, going down 20-10 to the battling Roosters last evening. The lads showed real INCLUSION as they passed the ball around in scoring their 10 points. No one in the Manly tear was LEFT OUT, everyone got a touch of the ball, even the 18 year old kid who had never played grade footy in his life got a go late in the game.

The rainbow colours, although first introduced by gay folk to indicate that they had pride in themselves for the human beings there are, and not shame as the bigoted demanded. Today the rainbow colours have come to represent all who, although different in some way to the main stream, have pride in their lives. This includes all who through difference suffer rejection or discrimination.

The physically and mentally handicapped are continually suffering discrimination and are often patronised by well meaning able bodied people, or dismissed as being an inconvenient nuisance.

Everyone,

I think we can all learn honesty from the personal example shown by person with the nickname "The voice of reason" when saying "I love when boomers cry": it does take courage to come out of the cupboard, for which they should be applauded!

We must recognise that in our diverse world there are such people who unlike the majority of us, cannot obtain sexual satisfaction by having sex with men, women, boys, girls, babies, cats, dogs, sheep, camels or even electrical wires. Instead, they can only have some relief by seeing others suffering, that too only when specific cohorts suffer pain and agony, such as certain age groups. Surely we must respect and include these people, surely we must accommodate ourselves to their particular and different needs!

"I think we can all learn honesty from the personal example shown by person with the nickname "The voice of reason" when saying "I love when boomers cry": it does take courage to come out of the cupboard, for which they should be applauded!

We must recognise that in our diverse world there are such people who unlike the majority of us, cannot obtain sexual satisfaction by having sex with men, women, boys, girls, babies, cats, dogs, sheep, camels or even electrical wires. Instead, they can only have some relief by seeing others suffering, that too only when specific cohorts suffer pain and agony, such as certain age groups. Surely we must respect and include these people, surely we must accommodate ourselves to their particular and different needs!"

I love humanity . I hate scum who want to harm strangers for things they can't control. Sue me.

Oh dear voice of reason,

«I hate scum who want to harm strangers for things they can't control. Sue me.»

Nobody wants to sue you for that which you cannot control. Quite the contrary, I just urged everyone to embrace you!

Diversity and inclusion was not the name of the game at the very beginning, when club management's brain fart failed to include players; it was assumed that everyone thought the same way they did.

They failed to recognise that half the players had views of sexuality based on religious belief.

Result? They EXCLUDED half of their players in the name of INCLUSION; they expected the players to put aside their deeply held beliefs, and accept contrary beliefs and behaviour. There is nothing to say that the players wouldn't play for or against the people being publicised; they just didn’t want to promote homosexuality themselves.

So inclusive and tolerate are their detractors, police felt the need to warn them away from the game for their safety.

ttbn,

By my calculation 7 out of 27 is not half, it's more like a quarter. Another one of your errors.

"Result? They EXCLUDED half of their players in the name of INCLUSION; they expected the players to put aside their deeply held beliefs, and accept contrary beliefs and behaviour. There is nothing to say that the players wouldn't play for or against the people being publicised; they just didn’t want to promote homosexuality themselves.

So inclusive and tolerate are their detractors, police felt the need to warn them away from the game for their safety."

The paradox is that excluding Nazis is inclusive

There is no rugby where I live, but enquries come up with 15 players. 7 is near enough to half of 15.

Nah ttbn,

You've got the wrong game, 15 on the field in rugby union, 13 in rugby league, 4 interchange 1 for injured player replacement, Manly used 18. They had named a squad of 20, normally 21, then they omit 3. 20 + 7 = 27... 7 is about a 1/4. 20 were willing to play 7 were not.

BTW; A true Christian would not play a violent game such as RL.

JESUS! Penrith are wearing PINK tonight! What is the man's game of biffo coming to? Blocker Roach wouldn't be seen dead in PINK!

Hey SteeleRedux
"If this lot showed some consistence in their public moralising I would have a bit more respect for them."

A lot of footy players are Pacific Islanders and are Christians.
They have no love or care for homosexuality, same as Israel Falou.

Actual Christians know what the Bible says, and don't go around hating people for how they were born.

No joy for the lads in pink, going down 34-10 to the Parramatta Ells, after their star player and Captain was sent off for pole driving an opposition lad into the ground, hopefully an excavator will be able to dig him out this morning. Not a very Christian thing to do.

I never did believe Mugball was a Christian amusement !

SR,

Your ignorance is showing. In Christianity gambling is frowned upon, but homosexuality is a mortal sin. Similar to the comparison between jaywalking and murder.

You are happy for people to stand up for their principles as long as they are the same as yours.

"Your ignorance is showing. In Christianity gambling is frowned upon, but homosexuality is a mortal sin. Similar to the comparison between jaywalking and murder.

You are happy for people to stand up for their principles as long as they are the same as yours."

There is no concept of a mortal sin in the Bible, you're talking about Catholicism. I would agree, the bible suggests that christians should not be gay (as if they have a choice) but the bible is also crystal clear that Christians are to be a light to the world, spreading peace and love, and quite specifically not moralising to society or telling non Christians how to live.

In other news, the Shrine of Remembrance has been painted neon rainbow.
- Might as well just hold the next mardi-gras there and erect a statue of two blokes making out.
Or better still a gay man and a trans woman with dysentery in the trenches making out.
What the hell is it with debauching every aspect of society with poof celebrations anyhow..
Maybe we should rename it the Shrine of Homosexuality.

"What the hell is it with debauching every aspect of society with poof celebrations anyhow..
Maybe we should rename it the Shrine of Homosexuality."

The tears of angry bigots are my oxygen.

There is no such thing as gay sex. No sex is more debauched than any other if it involves consenting adults.

Melbourne's Shrine of Rememberance has cancelled plans to
illuminate the site in rainbow colours to mark the
opening of an exhibition about those LGBTQI people who
served in the armed forces and lost their lives.

The Exhibition is called "Defending With Pride."

The Exhibition and a Last Post Service will still go ahead
from Sunday. However the Rainbow Lighting will not

There's more at the following link:

http://abc.net.au/news/2022-07-30/shrine-of-rememberance-in-rainbow-colour-scrapped/101284904

BTW: Just a reminder that the Sydney Opera House
is often lit up with various colours - depending
on the occasion and event. And its become perfectly
acceptable in Sydney to do so

"Melbourne's Shrine of Rememberance has cancelled plans to
illuminate the site in rainbow colours to mark the
opening of an exhibition about those LGBTQI people who
served in the armed forces and lost their lives."

The shrine is boomer Disneyland so this does not shock me. It seems we need to wait for the boomers to depart before we can be a society....

I forgot to add that the Sydney Opera House's sails were lit
up in a shimmering rainbow when the passing of marriage equality
into law happened. Plus they did the same in celebrating
Mardi Gras with the Opera House for the first time.

Melbourne will eventually catch up to Sydney. The exhibition
and the Last Post Service is a beginning.

VOR,

On OLO I have actively supported gay marriage even prior to Juliar rejecting it, and don't care whether anyone is gay, trans, etc. Some Christians who take the bible seriously believe that homosexuals will automatically go to hell (the definition of mortal sin)

None of the players involved had prior to this shown any disrespect to LGBT people in any way, but the managers were making support of this cause compulsory, and even though they had the option of providing these players ordinary jerseys chose to stand down these players.

The result is that the team got thrashed, and "go woke go broke" is proven again. The fwit that forced the players to stand down should lose his job.

Nah SM,

You can't have different players in different jumpers, against the rules. The make-shift Manly team did reasonably well, winning the second half 6/4.

Look at the Penrith outfit, wearing pink! The Captain in his frustration in not being able to take the field with his handbag, pole-axed an Eels player, and got sent off!. Nasty Nathan is now looking at 4 to 6 weeks on the sideline.

I generally agree with what you are saying on this subject.

Professional athletes in the US do not have advertising on their uniforms. They are not required to have anything on their uniforms besides insignia designating their team. The only exception is that they can wear black armbands indicating mourning for a beloved person. I was taken aback to see the clothing of Australian athletes being billboards for advertising and causes. Athletes should only be required to play their game to the best of their ability.

There is no such thing as gay sex. No sex is more debauched than any other if it involves consenting adults."

That's just your opinion, gay sex between women probably doesn't involve the anus.
If you wish to celebrate getting things crammed up your anus then I think you have concerning sexual fetishes and it speaks for itself.
You probably go to Thailand 4 times a year to meet up with Ladyboys, and like to hang around public toilets too.

This promotion of 'gay pride' was nothing more than a cynical use of emotion by the manufacturer of the rainbow jumpers to make money. The company suggested the idea, and the club went for it. The jumpers can be bought online for $160. So much for pat-a-poof.

ttbn and others,

How do you feel about footballs "indigenous round", when special jumpers are worn, with an indigenous theme being promoted.

Sad news this morning, the death of Aboriginal musician and songwriter Archie Roach at 66.

RIP Archie.

One of Archie's best;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IL_DBNkkcSE

Paul,

Exactly the same as I feel about the rainbow ones. Whoever thinks these things up is probably selling the indigenous ones online, too. Do you have one of each?

Commercial - or emotional - promotion does not lead to acceptance or inclusion. Gays and Aboriginals are already included in sport. Nobody refuses to play with them. Spectators don't refuse to pay to watch them.

Very sad news indeed.

Gunditjmara (Kirrae Whurrong/Djab Wurrung), Bunjalung Senior
Elder, songman and storyteller, Archie Roach aged 66, passed
away surrounded by family after a long illness at the
Warrnambool Base Hospital in Victoria last night 30/07/2022.

The singer survived a stroke in 2010 and was diagnosed with
lung cancer in 2011. He took to the stage at the St Kilda Festival
in February this year wearing a breathing aide.

It's a shame that he did not get to see the Referendum of the
Voice to Parliament being passed. Which I'm sure it will be.
Archie worked so hard for his people - telling the truth of
their pain.

Still we have an opportunity to set the record straight.
Which any decent Australian will do. As our Prime Minister stated -
in his Opening Speech to Parliament -
we have "an opportunity that must be seized."

He reminded the politicians :

"You're not here for that long," "And when you're sitting on the
porch, thinking about what you did, you can either have a sense
of pride, or a source of regret. There's no middle path."

The same goes for all of us when it comes to our vote in the
Referendum.

Rest In Peace AR.
You shall be greatly missed by your countrymen.
You fought a brave fight

Dear Paul,

Thanks for the link.

"Took The Children Away," is such a powerful song.
It still gives me goosebumps. The words are so
emotive - especially the words of them coming back
still puts a lump in my throat. Roach was a member of the
Stolen Generation.

Why is Monkey Pox being renamed Pride Pox?

Mhaze

I haven't seen it so described but, like HIV, it has been associated with homosexual activities. Not something to be proud of.

Hi Paul,
"How do you feel about footballs 'indigenous round', when special jumpers are worn, with an indigenous theme being promoted."

It's probably less provocative then 'bending the knee'.

I think sport should just be left purely as sport.
- Not a platform that can be exploited to promote social / political issues.

In 1960 New Zealand Rugby Union failed to select Maori players for the national tour of South Africa. The decision to comply with South Africa’s strict segregationist apartheid policies by not selecting Maori players caused outrage. Some of the biggest public protests in New Zealand’s history failed to convince the Labour government to intervene. Prime Minister Walter Nash supported the rugby union, arguing that to include Maori ‘would be an act of the greatest folly and cruelty to the Maori race’.

I wish they wouldn't select Maori players for the 'All Blacks' today, then the "Want-A-Be" Aussies might have a show of getting within 30 points of the cursed Kiwi's.

Homosexuals or transgender or whatever else, as long as there is football society has a problem promoting sense !

"haven't seen it so described but, like HIV, it has been associated with homosexual activities. Not something to be proud of."

There is no medical reasons for gays to be more likely to get monkey pox. In a world where most straight couples under 40 do anal, there's no reason for gays to be more likely to get aids.

Brazil’s health ministry indicates that more than 98 per cent of confirmed cases of Monkey Pox were in men who have sex with men.

Homosexuals should be entitled to the same medical care as anyone else. The fact that monkey pox is more prevalent among them is no more relevant than the fact that rickets is more prevalent among small children. Treatment for rickets and monkey pox should not be denied because it is more prevalent in a subsection of the population. In a civilised society being a small child or a homosexual is not a crime.

"Homosexuals should be entitled to the same medical care as anyone else."

Who's saying they shouldn't get medical care?.

The usual bigoted crowd are saying that mhaze.

"Brazil’s health ministry indicates that more than 98 per cent of confirmed cases of Monkey Pox were in men who have sex with men."

The outbreak appears to be in the gay community, but they don't do anything straight people don't do, there's no cause and effect here

I assume they are getting medical care, as they should. You only have to mention homosexuals these days to have their supporters running around in circles, biting their arses like rabid terriers. It makes one wonder if these supporters of homosexuals are actually of the same persuasion themselves.

Maybe we will see posters 'coming out' one day.

"I assume they are getting medical care, as they should. You only have to mention homosexuals these days to have their supporters running around in circles, biting their arses like rabid terriers. It makes one wonder if these supporters of homosexuals are actually of the same persuasion themselves."

What's delicious is that elderly right wing scum still think being gay is an insult. It's not, boomer. I am not gay but if I was I'd tell you without hestitation, secure in my rights and my acceptance by most of society.

VOR,

If you are claiming that straight sex and gay sex are identical, then you need a lesson in the birds and the bees.

"If you are claiming that straight sex and gay sex are identical, then you need a lesson in the birds and the bees."

Name one sexual act that only gay people do. I'll wait.....

Latest on MP. Once seldom reported outside of Africa, now world-wide, 98% homosexual activity cause confirmed, with with sufferers 75% white males. Apart from obvious rash and lesions, there is severe pain in the rectal area. Avoid homosexual activity.

"Latest on MP. Once seldom reported outside of Africa, now world-wide, 98% homosexual activity cause confirmed, with with sufferers 75% white males. Apart from obvious rash and lesions, there is severe pain in the rectal area. Avoid homosexual activity."

All of this is ignorant nonsense (I used another word but this is a snowflake forum). Lots of straight people do anal sex. There is no such thing as gay sex. Would you like to 'avoid sex'?

Idiot.

It's a disease caused by close contact with other people. It's not caused by any one act. You could catch it hugging your grandma

Voice of reason is clearly an oxymoron.

Easy,

While there is a tiny amount that experiments the vast majority of man-on-man anal sex is generally not performed by heterosexual or lesbian couples

"While there is a tiny amount that experiments the vast majority of man-on-man anal sex is generally not performed by heterosexual or lesbian couples"

And it's interesting that boomers hate homosexuals but assume lesbians are invented for their porn

An anus is an anus. Male or female anal sex is the same act in every possible way. Except where the guy at back puts his hands

One solution to all this over the top indulgence of perversion could be found in the introduction of a modern version of the 1553 Buggery Act.

"One solution to all this over the top indulgence of perversion could be found in the introduction of a modern version of the 1553 Buggery Act."

Most people under 40 are having anal sex or want to. So I am unsure how criminalising everyone because your sex life has sucked is going to be better for society.....

I appears that some people delight in what they
think the "mystique" of homosexual sex is. But
it gets a bit disturbing when people obsess with
genitalia and sexual acts. Penises, anuses?
Why not add vaginas, breasts, lavatories, knickers,
and farting? That might make people laugh - especially
when they're at a loss for conversational gambits.
I guess when you have nothing else to talk about -
Sex is an old chestnut that some people can choose to
fall back on.

We even have sex as a discussion topic on this forum
that I've raised - except it asks the question -
"How important is sex in your relationship?"

A bit different to what's going on here.

Sorry - the question I asked - "Is sex important
in a relationship?"

"The rainbow flag does not represent homosexuals, bisexuals and transgender people, nor is it about inclusion of them who are already included anyway - it represents an attempt to politicise their sexual tendencies."

It's poltical so long as the policies of society discriminate. Again, Pride came out of fighting back when cops killed gays. Now it represent societal change. No one is asking you for anything. No one is changing your life to please the gays.

And they have advertising on their jumpers for capitalism. Do you hate capitalism? Welcome, comrade.

"Most people under 40 are having anal sex or want to."

Are you going to tell us how you know this? Or, are you just going to continue bellowing immaturely at people with more sense and experience of life than you have. Nobody under 50 years of age these days knows their arse from their elbow. Thick as pig dung the lot of you.

Those of you who attempt to slur gays -remember
would you rather continue with your attempts at
trying to shame gays then let orphans have a family?

Also, if any of you admired the former US President who
said "Grab 'em by the pussy." Have zero room to claim
to protect anyone in bathrooms.

Dear Voice of Reason,

I assume, but please correct me if I was wrong, that since you quoted my earlier words, your last post was addressed to me, thus I am obliged to respond even while I have no particular interest in this topic.

«It's poltical so long as the policies of society discriminate.»

Sadly you parrot, blindly to give you the benefit of the doubt, this false notion of "society": no such thing exists, how less so could it have policies!
(that vicious term was invented for the sake of coercing people and trying to make them feel guilty as if they owe others something)

Yes, individuals have policies, individuals do discriminate and I too discriminate against angry people - it is unpleasant as well as unsafe to stay around them.

«Pride came out of fighting back when cops killed gays»

You may indeed feel proud if you actually fight such cops - but how many people do you know who actually fought back when the cops attacked and killed?

Shouting slogans in a big crowd, disturbing the peace of others, is hardly anything to be proud of. Further, as noted above, the anger of such shouters drives others to discriminate against them, irrespective of any sexual tendencies they may or may not have.

Anyway, cops never represent "society" - they represent the regimes that hire them.

«Now it represent societal change.»

A very dangerous threat, that is a code-word used by regimes when they are about to make new decrees, new forms of oppression.

«And they have advertising on their jumpers for capitalism. Do you hate capitalism? Welcome, comrade.»

I disapprove of capitalism and socialism just the same - both are coercive.

I am going to ignore the idiot who can't read or see outside his nursing home and has no clue most people do anal today. I am going to ignore most of the other drivel, I get 8 replies a day, and the horde of crying boomers means I use them up quickly

"thus I am obliged to respond even while I have no particular interest in this topic."

HAHAHA!! I have no interest in this topic but I keep reading and replying to it

"Sadly you parrot, blindly to give you the benefit of the doubt, this false notion of "society": no such thing exists, how less so could it have policies!"

I am guessing you are a libertarian, given you hate society. Libertarians are trash.

"but how many people do you know who actually fought back when the cops attacked and killed?"

Irrelevant, pride is a reminder gays have had to fight for the most basic rights

"Shouting slogans in a big crowd, disturbing the peace of others, is hardly anything to be proud of. "

Not sure what this is about? Me opposing right wing race riots. Nazi will never feel safe.

"A very dangerous threat, that is a code-word used by regimes when they are about to make new decrees, new forms of oppression."

Yes, change is scary when you are very old. I get it

"I disapprove of capitalism and socialism just the same - both are coercive."

Only real morons think that. Perhaps read a book and learn what socialism is? Why is it coercive to give people food and shelter, or make sure everyone's needs are met? Because the rich have to pay taxes? LOL!

Dear Voice of Reason,

...or this is how you call yourself here, yet your manner of speech is emotional, not reason-driven.

You speak the language of hate, not of love, you speak in overreaching slogans, divorced from reality and reason, but beneath that bravado I sense your fear, how terrified you are of old age.

These relatives of mine who are homosexual or made changes to their body to better suit their gender-related feelings, have never participated in parades and demonstrations, nobody persecutes them, they are not interested in politics, they just get on with their lives peacefully, lovingly, busy with their families, work, friends and hobbies like the rest of us.

They feel no need to hate anyone, this "rainbow" angry expression does not represent them, they do not consider themselves "gay" and if proud of anything, then it is of their own achievements in life, not their incidental sexual tendencies.

You asked me: "Why is it coercive to give people food and shelter, or make sure everyone's needs are met?"

Well I never claimed that the former is coercive (assuming you don't give people food and shelter they don't want and and never asked you for - that too happens...). Many people of all political persuasions (including those with none) do so, while many others of all political persuasions do not.

As for the latter, rather than coercive, it is plainly impossible!
I wish I could fulfill your need of finding peace and overcoming this debilitating fear of old age, but is there any way I could make sure that happens?

Indeed I have no interest in this topic. I was disturbed of the fact that people are being ordered what to wear, especially when it goes against their conscience and morals, thus I commented. Having made my comment, I feel responsible to defend it, thus I quickly scan these pages from time to time to check whether anyone replied to it, nothing beyond that: rest assured that I have no time or interest to read through the tedious rest.

VOR,

You post a blatant lie then call anyone that calls out your BS a hater. Grow up

"You speak the language of hate, not of love, you speak in overreaching slogans, divorced from reality and reason, but beneath that bravado I sense your fear, how terrified you are of old age."

I hate bigotry, true'

"These relatives of mine who are homosexual or made changes to their body to better suit their gender-related feelings, have never participated in parades and demonstrations, nobody persecutes them"

Irrelevant. They are safer because other people stand up.

"They feel no need to hate anyone, this "rainbow" angry expression does not represent them, they do not consider themselves "gay" and if proud of anything, then it is of their own achievements in life, not their incidental sexual tendencies."

You think that pride is about anger? That's YOUR anger you see.

"You asked me: "Why is it coercive to give people food and shelter, or make sure everyone's needs are met?"

Well I never claimed that the former is coercive"

So you don't hate socialism. thank you.

"As for the latter, rather than coercive, it is plainly impossible!
I wish I could fulfill your need of finding peace and overcoming this debilitating fear of old age, but is there any way I could make sure that happens?"

I am 53. I will grow old without becoming trash, unlike so many of my peers. I am OK with it

"Indeed I have no interest in this topic. I was disturbed of the fact that people are being ordered what to wear, especially when it goes against their conscience and morals, thus I commented. Having made my comment, I feel responsible to defend it, thus I quickly scan these pages from time to time to check whether anyone replied to it, nothing beyond that: rest assured that I have no time or interest to read through the tedious rest."

HAHAHAAHA! Christ this forum is ridiculous.

To the other idiot - list my lies, friend. You cannot. I never lie.

Voice of an idiot,

Your first lie is"The outbreak appears to be in the gay community, but they don't do anything straight people don't do, there's no cause and effect here"

Your second lie is"Most people under 40 are having anal sex or want to."

"Your first lie is"The outbreak appears to be in the gay community, but they don't do anything straight people don't do, there's no cause and effect here"

Your second lie is"Most people under 40 are having anal sex or want to."

The first, actual experts have been clear that everything I said is true. The virus is not sexually transmitted, it's simply transmitted by close contact. Monkeypox is not an STD, so the sexuality of those suffering it is not a vector.

The second - Christ you are useless. I get no one in the nursing home has butt sex and I get you can't read, but, honestly

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4949144/

This is 2016, and it was about half of people then. I said 'people under 40' in my first statement. Just like oral sex went mainstream in the 80s and 90s, anal has gone mainstream this century. In fact, I've read articles that it's women driving the increase, now. Of course, most porn includes anal, and most guys watch porn, which has also served to normalise it. If you bothered to look past your own views and experiences, you might learn something.

Dear Voice of Reason,

«You think that pride is about anger?»

No: pride is pride, I just think that the rainbow movement is an expression of anger, not of pride.

«I hate bigotry, true'»

While the issue of bigotry was never raised, not with me anyway, that shows again that your ideas originate in your emotions, not your reasoning.

«Irrelevant. They are safer because other people stand up.»

This is your hypothesis, but I believe that homosexuals are safer today simply because the wheels of time turned, because people found better things to do than criticising and chastising others, also as a developing result of the contraceptive pill where other sexual practices were no longer demonized, also due to the New-Age movement (by boomers...), also people had better things to do with their money than keeping and feeding homosexuals in prisons, also because they meanwhile found new scapegoats.

It reminds of me the king from Astroid 325 (http://www.angelfire.com/hi/littleprince/framechapter10.html) claiming that the sun obeys him, like organising a group to stand in the meadow at dawn, singing and dancing while calling on the sun to rise, then cheering themselves up and patting their own shoulders when it does.

«So you don't hate socialism. thank you.»

You did not ask me about socialism - you asked me, "Why is it coercive to give people food and shelter" and my answer is definitely a NO. Most times it is even virtuous! (there are exceptions, but I digress)

«I am 53. I will grow old without becoming trash»

Indeed, none of us grows to become trash, but our bodies inevitably will become just that. Unless one attained rare and profound wisdom, the thoughts about that happening are naturally very scary, it is not something to be ashamed of.

"No: pride is pride, I just think that the rainbow movement is an expression of anger, not of pride."

Why is it, boomer? What are gay people mad at?

"While the issue of bigotry was never raised, not with me anyway, that shows again that your ideas originate in your emotions, not your reasoning."

Because I am a decent person?

"This is your hypothesis, but I believe that homosexuals are safer today simply because the wheels of time turned, because people found better things to do than criticising and chastising others,"

They found new people to hate, like Muslims, because of efforts to make it not OK to hate gays. And plenty still hate gays, marriage equality barely got a majority vote.

"You did not ask me about socialism - you asked me, "Why is it coercive to give people food and shelter" and my answer is definitely a NO. Most times it is even virtuous! (there are exceptions, but I digress)"

That's what socialism is, dummy.

"Indeed, none of us grows to become trash, but our bodies inevitably will become just that. Unless one attained rare and profound wisdom, the thoughts about that happening are naturally very scary, it is not something to be ashamed of."

i have joined groups online dedicated to my generation, wanting to simply reminisce about growing up in 1982. Instead those groups are full of racism and trans and homophobia, because many of my generation appear now to be trash

Dear Voice of Reason,

«Why is it, boomer? What are gay people mad at?»

That is totally besides the point: even if their madness/anger is legitimate, my point was the fact that they are mad/angry, rather than proud - and you just concurred.

Do you realise that ordinary good people do not like to be around angry people?

Myself included, I discriminate against angry people, I tend to keep away from them, I tend to be uninterested in whatever they have to say, regardless whether it is right or wrong.

Does such anger serve their purpose, or yours? It does not befit your nickname, "Voice of Reason".

«Because I am a decent person?»

Does being a decent person make you hate?
What's next - can being decent also make you murder?
Blinded by anger, you might even, in the name of decency, kill people whom you mistakenly consider to be bigots.

«marriage equality barely got a majority vote.»

That was because of the absurd logic-defying wording of the question.

«That's what socialism is, dummy.»

Hmmm, I never heard that definition or anything close to it.
If that indeed is the case, if socialism is synonymous with kindness and charity, then these dummy socialists are the worst of the worst in public-relations. Had they just explained it as you explain it to me, convincingly, then they would easily get nearly 100% of the votes.

«many of my generation appear now to be trash»

Yes, appearances. If you want any sympathy, if you want to be effective at all, if you want to be listened to, to have any communication skills, then you must remember that even if there is trash in their minds, they themselves are never trash! that even while their minds could be dirty, no dirt can touch themselves who remain forever pure. To gain any cooperation you need not side with their trashy minds, but you do certainly need to side with them who have that mind, you need to note that difference.

Ignoring all your other drivel

"Hmmm, I never heard that definition or anything close to it.
If that indeed is the case, if socialism is synonymous with kindness and charity, then these dummy socialists are the worst of the worst in public-relations. Had they just explained it as you explain it to me, convincingly, then they would easily get nearly 100% of the votes."

The greens got a record vote because young people didn't live through cold war propaganda, and take the time to read and learn things. Home ownership exists for the middle class in the West due to a government program to try to counter the growing popularity of socialism at the time. Socialism is why women can vote and you get weekends and sick leave.

Read a book.

Voice of an idiot,

Here we go again, I have never linked monkeypox with gay sex, you did.

I just called out the bullsh1t drivel you were posting. To improve your non-existent credibility, you should try providing a link to your experts that I believe are entirely fictional.

"I just called out the bullsh1t drivel you were posting. To improve your non-existent credibility, you should try providing a link to your experts that I believe are entirely fictional"

Bigots are certainly claiming monkeypox is a gay disease and have on this thread.

I've provided links for those obsessed with the sex lives of strangers and out of touch with society. First day on the internet?

VOI

If you think someone is being bigoted in claiming that monkeypox is a gay disease you aren't making your case by posting claims that are clearly bollocks.

"If you think someone is being bigoted in claiming that monkeypox is a gay disease you aren't making your case by posting claims that are clearly bollocks."

I have asked for proof i lied. Some idiot responded and I replied with links proving I told the truth. I get 8 posts a day on this weird forum, please don't waste them by crying and not saying anything. List where I lied, with evidence

Dear Voice of Reason,

Previously you claimed that socialism is about "to give people food and shelter".

So simple, kindness and charity - Who possibly would not agree?

But now you say, in contradiction, that socialism is so complicated that one needs to read a book to understand it.

Anyway, I will leave it at that since this particular discussion was never meant to be about socialism.

«The greens got a record vote because young people didn't live through cold war propaganda»

Well of course, new times - new propaganda.

"Previously you claimed that socialism is about "to give people food and shelter".

So simple, kindness and charity - Who possibly would not agree?

But now you say, in contradiction, that socialism is so complicated that one needs to read a book to understand it."

I literally did not say that, can you read? From memory I presented some facts and suggested you read some history books to understand what socialism has done in the past.

"Anyway, I will leave it at that since this particular discussion was never meant to be about socialism."

No, it was boomers crying we can't bash gays any more

"«The greens got a record vote because young people didn't live through cold war propaganda»

Well of course, new times - new propaganda."

The thing is, boomers are openly trash, we don't need to invent someone to hate.

Voice of idiot,

You have provided zero proof.

I have clearly shown where you have lied especially when you have made statements about what I said that were clearly false.

Epic fail.

"You have provided zero proof.

I have clearly shown where you have lied especially when you have made statements about what I said that were clearly false.

Epic fail."

The honest issue with ignorant boomer right wing trash is they can't read and have dementia. I did provide links proving that anal sex is increasingly popular amongst people under 40. I did back my claims when you erroneously claimed I had lied because the truth hurt your feelings

As I said, I will give you a free pass. You are old. You are not lying, you simply have dementia

The question is, why do you care what other people do in their bedrooms? Is it simply true that no one loves you?

Dear Voice of Reason,

«I literally did not say that, can you read?»

Page 16:
«"You did not ask me about socialism - you asked me, "Why is it coercive to give people food and shelter" and my answer is definitely a NO. Most times it is even virtuous! (there are exceptions, but I digress)"

That's what socialism is, dummy.»

At the bottom of that same page:
«Home ownership exists for the middle class in the West due to a government program to try to counter the growing popularity of socialism at the time. Socialism is why women can vote and you get weekends and sick leave.

Read a book.»

The former is clear and simple while the latter is terribly complex. Which is it then?
Or are you claiming that governments wish to counter the growing popularity of giving people food and shelter?

«From memory I presented some facts and suggested you read some history books to understand what socialism has done in the past.»

People were given food and shelter - what's difficult to understand?

«No, it was boomers crying we can't bash gays any more»

This discussion thread was initiated by Paul, a Greens supporter and a boomer too, I believe. It was about the behaviour and exclusion of seven players in their 20's and 30's. No mention of them wanting to bash anyone.

«The thing is, boomers are openly trash, we don't need to invent someone to hate.»

I already explained why nobody is trash, which you discarded as "drivel". It seems that your need to hate is so strong that you are willing to discard all facts and reason.

You are just not very bright. Never speak to me again

Voice of liar,

Still lying, you haven't provided any proof on this thread, and even if people are experimenting, it does not make it the norm. Your claim that gay sex and straight sex are the same is pure bollocks.

And like most degenerate ageing snowflakes faced with facts you lash out with abuse. What happened to you, are you still working minimum wage jobs near retirement? It looks like you have a lot to compensate for.

"Still lying, you haven't provided any proof on this thread, and even if people are experimenting, it does not make it the norm. Your claim that gay sex and straight sex are the same is pure bollocks."

It's interesting how triggered you are. The fact that most couples under 40 are experimenting with anal DOES make it the norm. The fact that all couples do oral, all couples touch each other and most couples do anal DOES mean there is no sexual thing that is 'gay sex' that straight people do not do. That's just reality. Why are you so triggered by the sex lives of strangers?

"And like most degenerate ageing snowflakes faced with facts you lash out with abuse. What happened to you, are you still working minimum wage jobs near retirement? It looks like you have a lot to compensate for."

I make $1000 a day. Why do right wing scum assume that anyone with morals and compassion is poor? Why does it matter? I have nothing to compensate for, I've been married 30 years, I have sex every 2 days or so, no holes barred. You're the one projecting sexual insecurity on the internet.

Voice of liar,

I see that you are still lying. You brought up what people do in their bedrooms not me so what triggers you about sex? Not getting any?

Your claim that most people do anal sex is a lie, and you have given no proof whatsoever. You obviously have some deep-seated issues that make you such a liar and a fraud.

The only thing that triggers me is people like you posting outright lies.

"I see that you are still lying. You brought up what people do in their bedrooms not me so what triggers you about sex? Not getting any?

Your claim that most people do anal sex is a lie, and you have given no proof whatsoever. You obviously have some deep-seated issues that make you such a liar and a fraud.

The only thing that triggers me is people like you posting outright lies."

I love you are wasting your 20 posts a day crying about your insecurities.

I've never lied, I've posted evidence to prove that. I get constant sex, I am not the one crying about sex. I am married, as I said, in a functional relationship.

https://www.menshealth.com/sex-women/a19527855/how-many-women-are-having-anal-sex/

https://www.cosmopolitan.com/sex-love/news/a36431/everyone-having-anal-without-me/

https://badgirlsbible.com/do-women-like-anal-sex

I guess the issue is that you cannot read? I'd posit more women are talking about it than doing it, but it's certainly a very mainstream thing today. Why are you crying?

Idiot voice.

Normally people that stupid are poor. As for your earnings and sex life I suspect that you are on the game as no corporate would pay that money for someone so retarded.

"Your claim that most people do anal sex is a lie, and you have given no proof whatsoever. You obviously have some deep-seated issues that make you such a liar and a fraud."

Can you simply not read, LOL?

I assume you didn't read any links? This is called cognitive dissonance, you shield yourself from information that proves you wrong

Voice of idiot.

You haven't provided any links on this thread. What you are suffering is called stupidity, this is when an idiot obnoxiously makes statements that are nonsensical.

You haven't provided any links on this thread. What you are suffering is called stupidity, this is when an idiot obnoxiously makes statements that are nonsensical.

https://www.menshealth.com/sex-women/a19527855/how-many-women-are-having-anal-sex/

https://www.cosmopolitan.com/sex-love/news/a36431/everyone-having-anal-without-me/

https://badgirlsbible.com/do-women-like-anal-sex

I don't see any way to make them active links, but they are visibly there, retard

TVOR,

Just remove the "s" from https and they should be fine.

http://www.menshealth.com/sex-women/a19527855/how-many-women-are-having-anal-sex/

http://www.cosmopolitan.com/sex-love/news/a36431/everyone-having-anal-without-me/

http://badgirlsbible.com/do-women-like-anal-sex

Voice of idiot,

If you actually read your link you would realise that you have proved my point.

To quote "37 percent of women reported having anal sex with the opposite sex in their lifetime."

So roughly 1/3rd of women have had anal sex once in their lifetime. Hardly a regular thing.

Idiot.

"If you actually read your link you would realise that you have proved my point.

To quote "37 percent of women reported having anal sex with the opposite sex in their lifetime."

So roughly 1/3rd of women have had anal sex once in their lifetime. Hardly a regular thing."

HAHAHAA!! Yeah, the figures vary from about 35% to about 65%. The point is, it's hardly rare, it's way more common than red hair, or being left handed. The overall point is that it's becoming more and more mainstream and popular over time. Time. Your greatest enemy I guess....

Voice of idiot,

1/3 of women have tried it once in their life while 2/3 have never tried it. That makes it extremely rare.

Get a dictionary idiot.

Also, Voice of idiot,

Quoting from Cosmopolitan and bad girl's bible just makes you look more like an idiot.

"1/3 of women have tried it once in their life while 2/3 have never tried it. That makes it extremely rare.

Get a dictionary idiot."

10% of people are left handed. 2% are redheads. You are citing one study, which I think was 8 years old. The question isn't how often do ladies take it up the ass. It's why do you care so much? It's common enough that you almost certainly talk to a lady who has done it everyday. It's more than common enough for me to be correct, there is no such thing as gay sex.

Incidentally, only about 50% of women orgasm during sex. Women orgasming during sex is still normal and natural.

Voice of idiot,

The question is why do you care? You are the one that made bullsh1t claim that gay sex is identical to straight sex. My sole interest is showing you up as a liar which I have done convincingly

That your link showed a small no of women have experimented once or twice in their lives does not in any way make it normal and certainly does not make straight sex the same as gay sex and is nowhere near frequent enough to make you even vaguely correct.

For example, if 0.01% of people are murderers that does not make it normal or make murderers the same as all non-murderers

"The question is why do you care? You are the one that made bullsh1t claim that gay sex is identical to straight sex. My sole interest is showing you up as a liar which I have done convincingly"

How is a male butthole different from a female one? Explain it to me like I am 5.

"That your link showed a small no of women have experimented once or twice in their lives does not in any way make it normal and certainly does not make straight sex the same as gay sex and is nowhere near frequent enough to make you even vaguely correct."

The 30% figure was from 6 years ago.

https://badgirlsbible.com/do-women-like-anal-sex

It's 60% now, which proves my overall point. In any case, even if only 15% of people did it, that's hardly rare, and my core point stands. There is no gay sex that is not also straight sex. I am correct and you are triggered

"For example, if 0.01% of people are murderers that does not make it normal or make murderers the same as all non-murderers"

.01% and 30% or 60% are very different things, boomer

voice of idiot.

I have tried explaining this to you as if to a 5-year-old and it is still above your head. Here are the facts:

1 Stats from bad girls bible is almost certainly made up and is not worth the paper they are printed on and only an idiot would think so.

2 That 1/3rd of women may have tried it once in a lifetime does not even vaguely make it common. So claiming that gay sex and hetero sex is identical is complete bollocks and a deliberate lie.

If you are having the type of sex as frequently as you claim, your partner is not a woman.

Still crying other people get laid?

voice of idiot.

I have tried explaining this to you as if to a 5-year-old and it is still above your head. Here are the facts:

"1 Stats from bad girls bible is almost certainly made up and is not worth the paper they are printed on and only an idiot would think so."

Because you don't like them? They are only slightly higher than the others I found and probably accurate but self select for their readership.

"2 That 1/3rd of women may have tried it once in a lifetime does not even vaguely make it common. So claiming that gay sex and hetero sex is identical is complete bollocks and a deliberate lie."

It actually doesn't matter, the point we're arguing is irrelevant. Men and women have anuses. No matter how often each cohort has anal sex (lots of gays don't do it either), it's still the same thing, so there is still no such thing as gay sex.

"If you are having the type of sex as frequently as you claim, your partner is not a woman."

And there it is. Your sad, failed life in one sentence. I'll tell my kids their mum is a man to make you feel better?

Voice of idiot.

The fact remains that there is a vast difference between gay and hetero sex unless you consider winning the lottery as usual and you have provided nothing to show the contrary.

I do believe that your wife has an arsehole through marriage.

Its now developed into TRENCH WARFARE! The insults are coming thick and fast. It will go down in history as the "Battle of the Bums".

"The fact remains that there is a vast difference between gay and hetero sex unless you consider winning the lottery as usual and you have provided nothing to show the contrary.

I do believe that your wife has an arsehole through marriage."

this thread is now mostly me laughing at your sexual insecurity/

You've replied dozens of times and you have not explained the biological difference between a male or female mouth or butthole? I am all ears.

My wife doesn't have sex with me a lot because I am a prick. You've indicated you can't imagine a woman wanting sex, so you do the math

Voice of idiot,

At least you admit that you are a prick, and that your claims of wild and exotic sex were a lie.

As for the other wildly irrelevant crap that you were spouting you can shove it where the sun doesn't shine.

"Voice of idiot,

At least you admit that you are a prick, and that your claims of wild and exotic sex were a lie.

As for the other wildly irrelevant crap that you were spouting you can shove it where the sun doesn't shine."

I love how boomers are illiterate as well as insecure. I did not lie, why would I? You exposed your failed life by assuming my life could not be true. And you failed to even try to answer me, called me a liar, but would not tell me how I lied.

You are a worthless old man, aren't you? Looking back on your sad and empty life and confused that your grandkids hate you.

But they love their gay and trans friends. Some of them probably even experiment to see what it's like.....