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US Supreme Court Abolishes Constitutional Right to Abortion

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mhaze

Such people are ideologues who allow other people to do their thinking for them. There is no point in arguing with them because they are totally incapable of rational thought on their own. Their thoughts are the thoughts of others, and those others just tell them what to say and think; not how to deal with contrary opinions from outside their thought bubbles or dunghills. They have another look at their source, and sure enough, black is still white, so all they can do is continue repeating the error.

The rest of us read, listen to, or watch other opinions and ideas, to see what we are up against. Sometimes, we even change our minds. Not so with the 'friends of the ABC' and useful idiots for Marxism.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 27 June 2022 1:39:24 PM
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Is Mise,

A couple of things:

I never said it was in the constitution.

You need to read what I actually did say
as well as the links I gave.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roe_v._Wade#

http://theconversation.com/roe-overturned-what-you-need-to-know-about-the-supreme-court-decision-184692

mhaze,

You're just as determined to believe what you want about Trump
as I am. So why am I at fault - and you're not?

ttbn,

Watch your toxicity - it's increasing.
Take it easy.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 27 June 2022 2:18:45 PM
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Ah, here comes mhaze with his usual rubbish assertions which he is becoming so well known for.

He claims:“"US Supreme Court Abolishes Constitutional Right to Abortion" Completely wrong. The ruling merely passes the setting of the rules surrounding abortion back to the states and it's citizen's, where it always should have been.”

The court had decided in Roe vs Wade that constitution did indeed provide right to an abortion via the 14th amendment.

On January 22, 1973, the Supreme Court issued a 7–2 decision holding that the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution provides a fundamental "right to privacy", which protects a pregnant woman's right to an abortion. The Court also held that the right to abortion is not absolute and must be balanced against the government's interests in protecting women's health and prenatal life. The Court resolved these competing interests by announcing a pregnancy trimester timetable to govern all abortion regulations in the United States. During the first trimester, governments could not regulate abortion at all, except to require that abortions be performed by a licensed physician. During the second trimester, governments could regulate the abortion procedure but only for the purpose of protecting maternal health and not for protecting fetal life. After viability, which includes the third trimester of pregnancy and the last few weeks of the second trimester, abortions could be regulated and even prohibited, but only if the laws provided exceptions for abortions necessary to save the "life" or "health" of the mother. The Court also classified the right to abortion as "fundamental", which required courts to evaluate challenged abortion laws under the "strict scrutiny" standard, the most stringent level of judicial review in the United States.”

End of story.

The court, made up of a number of Trump's right wing toxic appointments, has now decided to revoke that decision.

So saying the “US Supreme Court Abolishes Constitutional Right to Abortion” is entirely appropriate.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Monday, 27 June 2022 4:01:06 PM
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Dear Is Mise,

You should also read the above since you seem incapable of looking up a highly relevant link Foxy provided to you. Do you need a lesson on how to click a link or is comprehension your failing and you prefer pre-packaged little sound bites because anything more than a couple of sentences turns your mind to mush?

How about a modicum of effort mate, it really shouldn't be that much to ask.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Monday, 27 June 2022 4:01:21 PM
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Dear Foxy,

The Supreme Court decision was indeed abysmal and has left millions of American women at the mercy of religious hard right state legislatures.

But I'm not sure we can crow too loudly. Essentially America on abortion has been returned to what we have here in this country where states make the laws for their individual jurisdictions.

We are lucky that the sort of toxicity isn't prevalent here but it one day could be, and we have no federally mandates set of rights to prevent it.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Monday, 27 June 2022 4:32:07 PM
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SR,
The decisions about abortion have been passed to the states. The ability to have an abortion hasn't been abolished.

QED.

"has left millions of American women at the mercy of religious hard right state legislatures."

It's as though these people think of the state governments as some sort of occupying power. FYG, the state legislatures are elected by the people. so saying the decision is now in the hands of the legislature is the same as saying its in the hands of the people. Ever heard of democracy?

In that regard, those who read the actual judgement rather than partisan filters of the judgement, will have seen an interesting comment as regards voting. It seems that women vote is disproportion numbers to men. In Mississippi (remember this was all about Mississippi!!) women make up 51% of potential voters but 55% of actual voters. Checking this statistic, it seems to hold in most parts of the country. So if legislatures do indeed decide to restrict abortion more than the current norm, it'll be women who voted for that.
Posted by mhaze, Monday, 27 June 2022 5:15:43 PM
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