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Adam Bandt and the Australian Flag

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Yes I know what you mean Issy, the Shooters and Hooters Party in Australia are beholding to the America NRA for their existence. If it wasn't for the NRA and their back door support the S&H mob would go out of business. Sorry, with 0.1% of the national vote at the federal election they are almost out of business now.

I fail to see why the Union Jack, a symbol of oppression for indigenous people the world over, should be waived in their faces, its removal from the Aussie flag would not be before time. Next thing you will want to know why black churches and organisations in Americas deep south are not flying the Confederate flag out front, probably for much the same reason, oppression!
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 21 June 2022 8:48:52 PM
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Senator Lydia Thorpe called the Australian flag an obscenity.
Funny that she accepts her pay from a Nation that has such an obscenity flying over the place to which she has been elected.
A person of principle would not even enter the building; but then we know that the Senator, like Bandt, is a person of principal (not a miss-spelling).
Posted by Is Mise, Tuesday, 21 June 2022 9:17:45 PM
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Greens hate Australia.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 21 June 2022 10:58:58 PM
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HawIi has the Union Jack in the canton of its flag, yet it was never British territory, it’s there as a mark of friendship, and is the only US flag to contain a foreign flag.
So much for oppression.
The Green slime is really the poisonous Red algae.
Posted by Is Mise, Tuesday, 21 June 2022 11:21:50 PM
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Paul1405 said- "I fail to see why the Union Jack, a symbol of oppression for indigenous people the world over, should be waived in their faces, its removal from the Aussie flag would not be before time."

Answer- There are two sides to the story. If indigenous people don't like the host peoples traditions then they can have their own flag and territory- the host peoples can still provide certain services such as defense. Let the indigenous people have a government of their people by their people for their people. If they have their own special region and it fails- they can't blame the host peoples.

Anglo-British have their flag- Aboriginals have theirs. Sorted.

I think that the Socialists and Communists are just trying to stir things up and create conflict for political reasons- in my view that includes the Greens party. This seems just another example of Trotsky's Permanent Revolution tactics against The Australian People. The Aboriginal people are not our enemies the Communists are.

But Anglo-British people cannot be steamrolled by those claiming to be acting in Aboriginal peoples interest using hard negotiating tactics.

I've talked to Aboriginals who say that they won't be happy till every Anglo-British person has left Australia either dead or alive. If this is the prevailing view then Anglo-British's only possible response is to create a workable agreement and then stick to it. Sounds like the Aboriginals in Australia will always believe that any agreement is tyranny but hopefully at some stage we will be able to have a working productive relationship. Anglo-British culture have already made many sacrifices for the relationship but Aboriginals still seem to say it's not enough- we need to move forward- preferably supporting a relationship with the Aboriginal people- but if that isn't possible we need to be willing to walk away from the negotiation. We can't be held hostage to bad faith negotiation tactics
Posted by Canem Malum, Wednesday, 22 June 2022 1:30:57 AM
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At some stage that has to mean that each side will respect each others point of view without agreeing with it.

Obviously it's a problem when the majority believe differently to a minority- let the the minority have their own special region and their culture can live or die on it's own merits.

In Aboriginal Territory they can have their own sovereignty- in Anglo-British Territory, Aboriginals need to obey Anglo-British rules.

Thanks Is Mise, Armchair Critic, ttbn- kudos.
Posted by Canem Malum, Wednesday, 22 June 2022 1:32:49 AM
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