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Stark differences in the meaning of patriotism on display

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Remember the Cold War between the US and USSR?
That's what all western countries are now, we've been whittled down to two party politics, and the creation of a cold civil war, overseas dictated immigration that pits immigrants against nationalists; and divided by identity politics instead of national policies and manipulated with climate change agendas.

Look at China, they are still all about Chinese people
Russia, it's all about Russian people.
Seems to me the West hates that, and wants to destroy it.
They want a totally divided nations so they can be ruled from Brussels or be threatened with coups and sanctions.

Do not think I'm an inhumane person.
I don't like these wars and all the people that suffer because of them.

The West pretends it cares about democracy and human rights
But it's really just all about money and power.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 21 May 2022 10:44:51 PM
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Armchair Critic,
Anyone disagreeing with your assessment needs assessing !
Posted by Indyvidual, Sunday, 22 May 2022 8:38:21 AM
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Thanks Indyvidual,

- Continuing on...

You could probably even go back a little bit further, if you count Cecil Rhodes, Rothschild, the Brits and the Boer War.

Just look at just a few of the people the US has supported.
Khmer Rouge, Contras, Islamic State and Ukrainian Nazis
I'm not convinced it's ever been about human rights.
- But 'defending democracy' sounds good for general consumption.

Even if you said all the things that came prior were justified.
- Going to war against nuclear nations Russia and China is NOT a good idea.

Chinese people aren't stupid, they know that if the US takes out Russia, it's going to be them next.
"You want me to help you beat up my friend so you can then beat me up afterwards?"

And why is the US willing to spend 50 billion on Ukraine?
Firstly, they can't take out Russia and China together, but both are threats to the Petrodollar.
- And US hegemony as the worlds reserve currency.

Russia with vast energy resources going onto a gold standard and only accepting payment in ruble, and Saudi Arabia, who've been screwed by the West for years under the Petrodollar system now signalling that it will accept payment in Yuan for oil and gas.
Russia's economy is actually far better now than it was before the start of the war in Ukraine, but they have some pain ahead.

The question I wonder is how much of all this is part of a larger more deliberate plan?
Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 22 May 2022 9:44:58 AM
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If you really think about it, the whole things a huge con-job.

UN immigrants quotas
How does this serve the system?
Answer = Change the People - Change the Government.

You can't have Australian's deciding what's best for Australia, no.

If you change the demographics of the people, then this different demographics of people will choose a different government.
- It's just 'cause and affect'.

Look at Cancel Culture
The right champions free speech, but the left would rather that the right not speak at all.

How does this serve the system?
Control the input (of what people think)
Then you control the output (of what people think)

Look at the US politics and particularly the Democrats platform.
This is the model to divide all western countries.

You put all immigrants and minorities under the one umbrella with the help of identity politics.

(Get people to identify as 'Lesbian' for example, instead of 'Australian')
- To denigrate and replace the original nationalist inhabitants / owners of a nation, (to make them the minority) and have the nation identify itself as multicultural which makes all citizens guests in a nation ruled by foreign treaties from Brussels.

There's a difference between National Democracy,
- Where existing Australians vote between different policy issues with other existing Australians for the betterment of our nation,

- and International Democracy;
- Where one side represents the existing citizens or owners of the nation and the other side represents an umbrella of immigrants and minority groups (empowered by identity politics) that pits us all against each other, sells us out to foreign treaties and ensures the nations citizens can never again unite to throw off the aggressors who imposed their will upon us in the first place.

This is the 2-horse race we call democracy, but it's all a huge stitch-up.
One that sees all our national assets privatised and put into the hands of bankers.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 22 May 2022 10:34:03 AM
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Armchair wrote: "Norway remained neutral in WWII..."

Utterly untrue. Norway sided with Finland against Russia. I sided with Britain against Germany and therefore was invaded by Germany. They fought the Germans, sought and received British support.

Neutral...not even close.

Unfortunately, despite being completely wrong, that was the most accurate part of AC's rant.

When you don't understand the past you can't understand the present.
Posted by mhaze, Sunday, 22 May 2022 11:09:45 AM
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When you don't understand the past you can't understand the present.
mhaze,
And, vice versa !
Posted by Indyvidual, Sunday, 22 May 2022 3:39:31 PM
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