Via their 'Peace and Disarmament' spokesman, Jordan Steele-John, the Greens do not see China as a threat to Australia, and they have no reservations over the security pact between China and the Solomon Islands.

Australia's concern about the pact is 'racist'! And Taiwan is not a direct concern for us, according to the Greens.

Labor's attempt to water down national security is bad enough, but the Green party is a real Fifth Column, also wanting the bipartisan Aukus/nuclear submarine agreement scrapped, the recently announced missile manufacturing stopped, Pine Gap closed down, and US marines kicked out of Darwin.

No-one's a threat to Australia but many are a threat to Australians just as many Australians are a threat to other Australians !
One such group of people making up a threat are the Greens & other Lefties because they're so insipid !

Yes, individual. The Greens are certainly the enemy within; and if Labor wants to have any credibility at at all, they have to come out, loud and clear, and announce that they will not touch the Greens with a barge pole.

And, voters rightly fed up with both major parties, should realise that the Greens are not a safe option.

Dave Sharma, Wentworth, has called for greater scrutiny of the Greens, and has reminded us that these dangerous people have ambitions to form a government with Labor.

The Greens have "vowed" to cut defence spending, on top of other cuts that would leave us even more exposed than we are now.

Sharma has gone as far as to say that the Greens pose a SERIOUS THREAT to our national security.

Thanks for the thread ttbn

The Greens will be the first to cry for help when their policies fall into a heap !

I would really like to understand this phenomenon and the best way is to hear an explanation directly from the Greens.

Are you here, Paul? Your response would be very appreciated!

Meanwhile I can only speculate based on the little I understand of Green philosophy. Obviously I could be very wrong, so perhaps Paul can correct me:

Humans are pests.
Humans oppress all other species as well as Earth itself.
They therefore deserve to be punished, they deserve to suffer - not to live in peace, freedom, dignity, comfort and prosperity.
A central world-government is needed in order to oppress humans, to prevent them from acting on their self-serving and genetic-family-serving evil instincts, forcing them instead to serve the Earth and atone for the damage they have done to its other species.

And should that central government be Chinese-based, then so be it: they already proved themselves quite capable of this much-needed ruthlessness and inhumanity.

Hi Yuyutsu,

Firstly, unsubstantiated claims by ttbn about the Greens, are generally extremely negative and biased, this seems to be no exception. He is supported by a peanut gallery of the like minded on the Forum.

Secondly, Its my belief Australia should take a non-aligned position in World affairs, there are about 120 countries that officially take such a position. Playing the bum boy for the Americans is stupid.

Thirdly, China, toothpick rattling, we don't have a saber to rattle so a toothpick has to do, along with shoot from the lip threats by the "tough guys" of the Coalition towards China serves us no good whatsoever. In these uncertain times, some of which are of our own doing, as we play the bum boy for the Americans, we should concentrate on a strong home defence force, not toys for the boys like nuk submarines coming in 40 years time.

Finally, your "Humans are pests etc etc..." rubbish, ridiculous, stupid comment. More the line of crack-pot Christians than anyone in the Greens.

Anyone who wants first hand comment from the man himself, his email address is below.

senator.steele-john@aph.gov.au

I have seen this git on a TV debate & when I say git I'd like to remind people that I'm being exceedingly kind using that description. He's an embarrassment to indigenous Australians.

Paul has no influence in the Greens party Yuyutsu. You don't need anything from him, nor is there anything of use to be had from him.

Nothing is "unsubstantiated". It is on public record. Look it up. As Adam Bandt recently said to a reporter whose question he could not answer, 'Google it'.

As Senator James Paterson is reported as saying: "The Greens having wacky national security and defence policies is not that surprising - what is more concerning is their ability to influence a future Labor government".

I have said that the Coalition needs to be put out to pasture to get their act together, even if we have to tolerate a Labor government while they do it.

But now, with the arrogance and the appallingly dangerous threat from Bandt and his cronies and their assumption of balance of power - virtual control of a weak Labor party - this cannot be allowed to happen.

Voters genuinely concerned about their country, their own freedoms and their future safety should have their preferences written down prior to going into the booth, with candidates representing the Green threat last in the lower house, and in the Senate, 12 below the line, with no Green monsters at all.

Dear Paul,

Thank you very much for your response.

«Firstly, unsubstantiated claims by ttbn about the Greens»

I am glad to hear this. So may I gather that the Greens do in fact see China as a threat and are also concerned about Taiwan?

«Playing the bum boy for the Americans is stupid.»

Indeed, but at this late stage we are left with no other choice.
If only we had our own nukes, if only we kept our own local production, including of fuel, we would never find ourselves in that predicament.

Look at Israel, like what they do or not, but they no longer lick the American bum, they do whatever they want, asking permission from no one. The Americans are fuming about their "ungratefulness", but they can afford it because they have the nukes and also better missile-defense systems than the American themselves. That should be our example!

«we should concentrate on a strong home defence force, not toys for the boys like nuk submarines coming in 40 years time.»

Yes!

«Finally, your "Humans are pests etc etc..." rubbish, ridiculous, stupid comment.»

I am glad to hear that, so may I conclude that the Greens do believe that humans should have peace, freedom, dignity, comfort and prosperity? Also how do the Greens feel about people who prioritize their genetic family first, above all others (human or otherwise)?
And how do they feel about the Chinese occupation of Tibet, the recent crushing of freedom in Hong Kong and the Uyghur holocaust?

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Dear Ttbn,

«Paul has no influence in the Greens party Yuyutsu.»

Nor do we have any influence in any other political party.

At the end of the day, politicians of all colours will do as they please and heed none of their supporters, nor can we ever tell what they really think.

Nevertheless, Paul is a good honest person and even while there is no way for us to know anything real about the Greens (or any other political party for that matter), I am interested to know how Green supporters like him PERCEIVE their preferred party.

The real threat that China presents to the West us that it is the only major world economic power that is immune to bullying from the USA.

Hi again Yuyutsu,

When I say "unsubstantiated", I mean unsubstantiated to me. Just because some silly old fart puts you a discussion topic on an obscure form, doesn't mean one is, or should be, instantly "in the know" on that topic. ttbn may be across every turd that drops from Pauline Hanson's arse, but I have to admit I don't follow every comment made by every Green across Australia, be they an MP, or like me, an ordinary party member.

The Greens membership like in other parties, Labor, Liberal etc, are not a homogeneous lot, but made up of diverse opinions, ideas, beliefs etc. The most important thing in life to 99% of us is family, the natural family, for most that's our biological family, Greens are no exception. Just as you care for family, that does not prevent you from caring for others as well.

What I don't like about conservative politics, it's the politics of fear. These people want everyone going through life fearful of others, fearing of tomorrow. Fear is a very strong emotion in people, we all suffer from it at times, and that's only natural but when its used as a weapon to control us then I object. Conservative politicians always offer despair rather than hope for tomorrow. Look at some on this forum, do they ever have anything positive to say, no its all doom and gloom, there is nothing worthwhile to look forward to.

"humans should have peace, freedom, dignity, comfort and prosperity?" I'll add to that love, plus charity towards others, and that about sums it up.

Paul is a good honest person
Yuyutsu !

Dave Sharma, a decent Liberal, knows he is under threat in the "safe" Liberal seat of Wentworth, from a strong Independent candidate, and Labor/Greens preferences will play a big part in determining the outcome. Sharma is now on a thin margin of about 3%,ah! the "good" old days of a 25% Liberal margin in Wentworth, any kind of swing will see Sharma unseated. If I was Sharma I would do all I could to reduce the "dangerous people" vote, if I wanted to win the seat that is.

ttbn you had a lot of "influence" in the half a percent Corny Banana Party, how low can you go, until they walked away with your dosh and left you stranded. Isn't that right me Old Fart, I wouldn't be surprised if you didn't lose $10k, you're that gullible.

Yuyutsu

I don't know how you can say that " Paul is a good honest person" and "there is no way for us to know anything real about the Greens". Paul is just a name on a computer screen: you know nothing about him; nothing about me or any other poster, including me. The same goes for you.

We DO know "real" things about the Greens from what they say in the media. We DO know the threats they have made if voters are crazy enough to give them the balance of power under a Labor government. We DO know that the Greens are a danger to the economy, freedom of speech and our national security and economy. They have now CONFIRMED their attitude towards totalitarian Communist China. Only a person who never watches TV, never listens to radio or reads a newspaper would not know these things.

And, really, Yuyutsu: you know full well how Paul "perceives" the Greens party, his contempt for the majority of Australians who don't care for a culture cancelling, extreme left, threatening- our-way-of-life minority group. People, including you, are just silly old farts to him. He never tires of telling us. Abuse rather than intellect is modus operandi.

The "fear" your 'good and honest' mate mentions all comes from the Greens; from the snarling, sneering Adam Bandt, the nastiest piece of work the Greens have ever thrown up in their short, threatening existence. If Australians do not fear Bandt and his evil mob, they are not just gullible, they are brain dead. But, I still believe that the quiet Australians - those who go about their lives and keep their opinions for the ballot box - are neither gullible nor brain dead, like the 10% who are under the spell of the Green commissars

Some time ago I asked the question just how will a Green/Labour
government enforce legislation to reduce emissions ?
I never got a satisfactory answer.
If I take my female relatives as a 50% example they have actually
no clue about the scale of electricity production.
A lot of men do have a better idea than the women.
This seems to be simply due to the different range of work life.
The net result well over 50% of the population do not have a clue
what is needed to produce the result of turning on a switch.
This why Bandt and his fellow travelers are able to convince
people, including school leavers, they have the answers to global warming.
Voting booths should be established at the largest power stations
and make all voters walk through. Oh that it was practical !

Listening to Bandt speaking at the Press Club, there were a couple
of good ideas the same as Labours but overall they were wiped out
by the sheer madness of the rest of their policies.

"Respected head of the Australian Strategic Policy Institute, Peter Jennings, called the Australian Greens’ ‘we love China’ defence policy ‘insane’. No further comment needed." (Terry Barnes)

The Australian Greens are a bunch of morons more interested in creating shock headlines than actually providing considered and workable policies. They are worse than one nation and should be called the village idiot party.

America's intelligence community can afford to
confront China head on. However middle powers
like Canada and Australia need to navigate carefully.

It's quite a conundrum for both countries.
While they both can be deeply alarmed by some
of Beijing's behaviour - China on the one hand is a
vital trading partner while the United States is
the most important military ally.

Our Foreign Minister Marise Payne talks in broad
general terms about the importance of protecting
Australia's interests and security. Yet at the same
time trying to avoid confrontation as much as possible.

Warnings about China's intentions are not new and
smaller, yet influential countries like Canada and
Australia and many others will need to weather it in a
world increasingly less friendly. Australia is
probably the most exposed.

Foreign policy experts seem to believe that like-minded
nations should be speaking out together and swapping
notes about their run-in with the Chinese leadership,
even if the US is not always involved.

Careful navigation is key and so far it appears to be
working.

The Greens Policy
Here's our plan: We will tax the billionaires & big corporations,and provide the things we all need for a better life.

They appeal to those that prefer not to work and save and take responsibility for their life. They want to strip wealth from those that are sucessful in business and employ thousands and appeal to those that feel they are deprived - they believe communism shares the benifits so they are aligned to the Chinese Communist Party. "China NO THREAT!"

SM,

This coming from a bloke who supports masterbaing on the Ministers desk as a key component in determining policy. You managed to string together two sentences without referring to your favorite subject of Pedophila, well done. I hate to think what you fellas get upto at branch meetings.

"In his time he (the desk masterbater) worked for senior figures (in the Liberal Party) responsible for the management of the House of Representatives" Pray tell what "policy" did he come up with for you guys?

ttbn,

What can I say about your demented ravings, nothing.

Former Mandarin-speaking Prime Minister Kevin Rudd
has raised alarm over the prospect of a Chinese
invasion of Taiwan. According to him few in the West
realize the extent to which Chinese leader Xi Jinping
is eyeing a return of Taiwan to mainland control.

"It's right up there next to Xi Jinping's desire for the
party to remain in power and for him to be the prominent
leader with the Communist Party of China," Rudd said on
7.30 program on Wednesday. (shades of Putin).

Rudd said the only thing preventing an invasion of Taiwan
by China was avoiding similar sanctions as have been
imposed on Russia following the invasion of Ukraine.

China is watching Ukraine situation closely.

Rudd says that Australia's role should be one of encouraging
the US and other allies towards effective deterrence.
Working with allies such as - Japan, South Korea, India,
were crucial to avoid "sleepwalking into war.

The Greens would also like public funding for brutal sex-change surgery.

Stassja Frei, founder of the Coalition for Biological Reality, in an article about the Liberal candidate for Warringah claiming that 'we are sterilising and surgically mutilating children' with these monstrous medical procedures, lists a few of the things she has seen videos of post surgery: "countless videos of 'gender affirmation' gone wrong".

.Victims of surgery developing fistulas between their colon and surgically constructed vaginas allowing gas to pass through.
.A female to male requiring liposuction on their "newly minted" penis because it had the girth of a "coke can".
.Kidney infections because of the inability to fully pass urine.
.Stitches ripping open.
.Colostomy bags.
.Loss of sexual function.
.Regret and remorse.

Sounds like the horror stories about the Nazi, Dr. Mengele in concentration camps.

Don't go to the Green's useful idiot, who doesn't seem to know much about actual Green policies; Google "Is Deves right about children being harmed?" and make up your own mind.

We will tax the billionaires & big corporations
Josephus,
Yeah, I wonder whom they'll tax once these people are no longer in business to provide jobs for the workers to pay Tax ?

Individual,
That line is the opening statement of Greens policy. Google it!
That is the only place they think money comes from, and by stripping these people the Greens will give you the lifestyle you desire. Sense who they are appealling to - the couch sitters and beach bums who don't work.

I recently asked a question on how a Labour/Greens government
would tax us on our co2 generation or just prevent us from
exceeding the stipulated amount.
They could do it for petrol by an extra tax, or odometer readings.
No one has answered this.
One suggestion I have heard is buying indulgences from the Gnomes of Zurich.
This worked well for the Russian oligarchs.
I have a pdf file here & I would like to show you of their fleet of
enormous motor yachts, but is a big file.
Is there a way on this site to load up such a file 5.4 Mb ?
It was sent to me as an attachment.
Maybe we could, if we get organised, all get such a yacht each !
I suppose that the Greens have already done it. No wonder they are so keen !

Josephus,
As Margaret Thatcher so rightly said "The problem with Socialists is that one day they'll run out of other peoples' money".

Dear Paul,

«The Greens membership like in other parties, Labor, Liberal etc, are not a homogeneous lot, but made up of diverse opinions, ideas, beliefs etc. The most important thing in life to 99% of us is family, the natural family, for most that's our biological family, Greens are no exception.»

Having spoken thus about diversity, then of the importance of family, I wonder whether you are a typical "Green" or rather the exception, who then paint the Greens political party in your own beautiful image, as you would like them to be.

In a healthy family, wealth is accumulated over generations to support the weak and the fallen, to provide education and housing for the young, expensive treatments for those who fall ill, are disabled or require intensive aged-care and to bail out those family-members who encounter disasters, both natural and human-made and become displaced/refugees as a result.

In such traditional, "conservative" if you like, families, one works not for themselves but for the whole extended family, taking out what they reasonably need to live on from their income, then saving the rest (which is normally the bulk because they had good education and their housing was already provided by the family so they don't have to waste their hard-earned money on banks and/or landlords). That multi-generational family-wealth typically accumulates with the oldest living generation, then passed on to the next when they die.

And that's where the Greens could sabotage it all with their proposed inheritance/death tax, forcing people to lose their independence and having to rely on states and strangers instead.

Thus supporting both Greens and family is inconsistent, though I would like to believe that to only be due to unintentional oversight.

«What I don't like about conservative politics, it's the politics of fear.»

Fear is natural and comes first: politics cannot create fear, only try to shape it.
Overcoming fear is the greatest spiritual endeavour, requiring no less than the conscious de-identification with and abandonment of one's animal/human nature itself. Only rare great souls achieve this over lifetimes of effort which must come from within.

Dear Ttbn,

«We DO know that the Greens are a danger to the economy, freedom of speech and our national security and economy. They have now CONFIRMED their attitude towards totalitarian Communist China. Only a person who never watches TV, never listens to radio or reads a newspaper would not know these things.»

Fortunately that describes myself, which probably places me in the best position as an impartial judge who does not know anything in advance yet seeks to find the truth of the matter.

I heard your accusations, thank you - now I like to hear the other side in defense of their position of denying those accusations. Rest assured that I will then listen in turn to your counter-arguments as well.

Yuyutsu

You can listen to whoever you like here, but all you will get are opinions. You say that you are a person who never watches TV, never listens to radio or reads a newspaper: so I don't see how you could judge anything at all if you don't know about it.

Pauliar,

This comes from a person that belongs to the greens that Andrew Forrest claims is a “party of paedophiles”

Hi Yuyutsu,

In an ideal world, your descriptive "healthy family" would be there to love, care for and support others within the family as you say, but we know we don't live in an ideal world. Many within our society for various reasons don't have that support, and without help they simply would not survive, many barely surviving now, with the support available. Greens policy attempts to address reality to a degree, is it ideal, not always, but it is an attempt to bring social justice to the world.

I had to laugh when ttbn attacked you for not being "informed". Before the last election he was singing the praises of the hastily conceived and quickly knocked together Australian Conservative Party, he even joined, it must have been the name that done it. When I asked about policy, as it was severely lacking on their website, ttbn couldn't answer, and cut and run from the discussion very quickly. The party had a basic platform of; "Vote for us first, then we'll come up with policy", they achieved less than half a percent of the popular vote. The party quickly disappeared up Cory Bernardi arse, leaving ttbn with no party, no policy and no dosh (the old chap had given generously). Oh they did have one policy CB and the other party insiders (ttbn was not one) were wizzing around the country, staying in five star accommodation, and living the high life. Good onya Old Fart!

SM, now a disciple of Andrew 'Twiggy' Forrest, the messiah ah. Do you also agree with Forrest that Australia should go easy on China, its jeopardizing his fortune. So jerking off on desks is now Liberal Party Policy? Do they give practical demonstrations at branch meetings, having attended one, I think they do. You should go to Canberra, the Liberals might invite you into the "Prayer Room" for a bit of slap and tickle.

Poor Big Business and Multi-Nationals, someone has the hide to demand they pay their fair share of tax, terrible, 'Iron Balls' Thatcher never did that!

shadowminister

And young impressionable women who firmly believe the sky is falling: And of course, their Consorts who must follow for a slim chance of getting their end in.
And a vast array of the gay rights crowd waving rainbow flags. Then of course, the Paul 14.05 Kim from Nimbum , (however, I’m beginning to suspect his contamination of Byron Bay, with its incurable diseases, and permanent riot squad, as a consequence of Green-Think). Mmmm.

Now Yuyutsu:
Something has happened in your life that has turned your gaze from the imperative of spiritualism towards the horrors of world Politics.
I don’t think the latter agrees with you.
And when you less than subtly deride those like myself who don’t have a TV set, let alone search for opportunities to watch one: And don’t read newspapers; and doesn’t listen to radios, you describe me to a tee.
I simply stick to reading tea leaves in the bottom of a cup, which keeps me occupied sifting through supermarket shelves among the tea bags sanctioned by Greens, for tea leaves.

Traditions:
it’s been a very long tradition over many years, being flung around the globe on an endless hate campaign, clipped to the shirt tail of our favourite Uncle, Sam.
Just as Multiculturalism has simmered all in the great big melting pot to produce an A-Typical Australian identity, (I admit I’m confused by the outcome of the resulting broth),
And just as the long tail of the verb is confusing this paragraph, China is on our doorstep as the new tradition.
Do we act in panic and shoot madly in every direction, or follow the greens policies of denial, forged by young immature women and homosexuals waving rainbow flags, cheered-on by dikes in high places, (and of course Paul 14.95klm from Nimbum), and deny the fact?

Dan

Dear Paul,

Yes, I understand that the world (as seen from human eyes) is less than ideal. But what kind of policy is it to punish and further undermine those who still do the right thing and support their families down the generations?

That particular policy of the Greens would encourage people to "spend it quickly now" before government takes away their earnings, leaving many more poor and destitute in the long run.

Getting back to Ttbn's original claims about the Greens forming a fifth-column in support of China, I would appreciate more specific details about the Greens' China/defense policies beyond merely stating that Ttbn's claims are "unsubstantiated" and leaving it there.

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Dear Dan,

«Something has happened in your life that has turned your gaze from the imperative of spiritualism towards the horrors of world Politics.»

Yes, it is called "elections": if I don't vote I will be fined, so I need to conduct a little study of the parties to make sure that I rank the very worst last, the least-evil first and all between in the right order.

Yuyutsu,
If you believe an individual should own nothing or hoard nothing but share equally the wealth created by society and that be distributed by the Government - Vote Green.
If you believe the Government should determine what we should believe - Vote Green
If you believe a family consists of two Dads or two Mums or a tranmum or transdad and children are born by suggoracy mums - Vote Green
If you believe trans women can compete in Womens sport at the the top level - Vote Green.
If you believe all religion should be abolished - Vote Green.

Otherwise look for a Candadate in your area that best believes the values as yourself.

Yuyutsu, here are my thoughts why China is a threat.
Previously known as the Central Kingdom it had the belief that
it was the superior and controlling country in the world.
Come forward three thousand years plus and the present Emperor
Xi Jing Ping has reinforced that belief in his statement that
only China is a sovereign country and so the USA is not a sovereign country.
It then follows that all other countries are Vassal states to China.

Now that sounds a bit estoric, except notice;
The way China just moved in and took over Tibet.
The way it generates border lines disputes with India.
The way China forced Vietnam to remove its survey ships from
Vietnamese waters because it wished to search for oil & gas in
Vietnamese waters.
It simply took over islets and reefs in Phillipine waters to build them
up as military bases and now orders other aircraft and ships to
leave the area or take responsibility for the consequences.
It sent hundreds of fishing boats into Phillipine Bays to totally
occupy them for many weeks.
It harassed Indonesian fishermen in Indonesian waters forcing them away
from their fishing grounds. The Indonesian Navy got involved.
It shines lasers in the eyes of foreign aircraft crews.
That includes the Australian Air Force plane in Austalian waters.
It has had previous armed clashes with Russia.
All around itself and now these days further afield.

No doubt there are other incidents, but I get the msg, do you ?

Yuyutsu wants the Green's useful idiot to "provide more specific details about the Greens' China/defense policies beyond merely stating that Ttbn's claims are "unsubstantiated" and leaving it there."

He can't do that, Yuyutsu. He is a wind up doll spouting old dogma that he was programmed for prior to the latest Adam Bandt extremism. He is not up with it. Someone who harps on a defunct political party (Australian Conservatives) and a politician who retired 3 years ago (Cory Bernadi) simply cannot keep up with current events.

Josephus,

You could also have added, 'vote Labor and you will get Greens'. Hard left Albo will go along with them; he has already shown that border protection will collapse; he is cowed by the three mean girls - he actually defended them; he would get on famously with the Green extremists.

Any Labor Government would be a Virtual Green Government.

I watched the media conference of the Opposition
leader this morning. He came across very strongly.
And he raised some very valid points.

There is going to be a head-to-head debate between
him and the PM tonight on Sky News which should be
worth watching.

It should be an interesting evening.

Hi again Yuyutsu

It is rather disingenuous to say "Ttbn's claims are "unsubstantiated" and leaving it there." That's not what I said..... "When I say "unsubstantiated", I mean unsubstantiated to me." Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 19 April 2022 7:00:05 AM

ttbn made a claim in his opening post attributing something to Greens Senator Jordan Steele-John. I find ttbn generally has a strong biased against the Greens, and if he posts something about the party it will only be negative comment. Having said that I didn't come across anything on the subject attributable to Steel-John, as I said its unsustained to me. ttbn may have a whole lot of links and quotes he could put up on the subject, but he chose not to.

On taxation; Greens policy is to tax the big end of town and the multi-nations who plunder this country and do not pay their fair share of tax, in some instances nothing at all. Individuals with incomes of hundreds of thousands or millions pa, do not need billion dollar tax cuts, most stash large amounts of income in trusts etc and avoid tax. There is no need to increase taxes on low and middle income earners 95% of taxpayers. Do as I said previously, then there would be more available to assist the battlers in society in the areas of health, education, housing, child care, employment etc.

Pauliar,

"On taxation; Greens policy is to tax the big end of town and the multi-nations who plunder this country and do not pay their fair share of tax, in some instances nothing at all."

Seriously, this has been tried before and has often failed. The top 25% of earners pay 65% of tax. Multinationals pay $bns in tax and pay good salaries to people that also pay tax. Those not paying tax are either writing tax off against depreciation or actually not making a profit for various reasons. Anyone that makes this idiotic idea a policy is either a moron or thinks that the voters are.

We'll see who the morons are by who
wins this election.

Voters are not that gullible.

Bandt chooses to ignore advice the not all corporations who don't pay tax are crooks; they simply don't make profits, or not enough profit, to pay tax on. All governments like tax and, any tax available would have been collected long before Bandt started his neighing and snorting on the subject. This bloke is probably confusing turnover with profit, so ignorant of the real world of business is he.

Yuyutsu,

See what I mean about the useful (maybe that should be useless) idiot being unable to answer your question, and just chuntering on about 'references'. For heaven's sake! What a dill! The media has been full of it. It is simply beyond belief that any sentient adult human being in Australia has not heard about the Green Senator's ravings, see them, or read about them.

Had a neighbour showing me some news articles today relating to the Darwin Harbour 99 year lease to a Chinese company. This deal was made during Morrison's time by a Liberal who apparently resigned from his position in the Govt to take up the managing of the Harbour etc.
Anyone have more detailed info on this inexcusable stuff-up ?

Yuyutsu

*…Yes, it is called "elections": if I don't vote I will be fined…*

Well I never, as they say.

You don’t have to vote.
You do need to register your appearance at the voting booth or risk a fine, ( from memory that is $150 last I enquired).

There are two escape routes to achieve a non-vote: one is the cowards way AKA “Donkey vote”, the other is to divide the ballot paper in two by tearing it up. ( my preferred method): That will render it unusable for any ingenious fraudster working in the booth to resubmit it.
Another way is to commit a crime which puts you behind bars for over twelve months, then you’ll be ineligible to vote.
But if you really don’t wish to vote and are wealthy enough, pay the fine for not turning up to cross off your name.

I think your not being honest with yourself Yuyutsu, with the above statement. Deep down you want to matter in the scheme of things, that’s obvious.

Dan

Dear Paul,

«ttbn made a claim in his opening post attributing something to Greens Senator Jordan Steele-John.»

That is his thing, not mine. I don't personally need to know any names or what this or that idiot said to that or this idiot: all that matters from my side is that next month I will be required to list down a permutation of all Australian political parties (or else be fined) and in order to produce the least harmful permutation, I need some information.

One particular piece of information that I need is, what (in your best estimate) will the Greens, if they come to power, do about defending Australia from the Chinese threat. I thought that since you are member of that party, it will be best if I can hear it directly from you.

«Greens policy is to tax the big end of town and the multi-nations who plunder this country»

And I happen to concur, but this is not what I asked you - I was asking specifically about the Greens policy to have an inheritance/death tax.

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Dear Ttbn,

«It is simply beyond belief that any sentient adult human being in Australia has not heard about the Green Senator's ravings, see them, or read about them.»

Well apparently some people have a life of their own...

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Dear Dan,

«the other is to divide the ballot paper in two by tearing it up.»

Same as registering at the door then leaving.
But will you be doing so openly, either walking away or tearing the ballot paper without caring in the least that the officials might see you?
Otherwise you would be hiding a little secret and walk out like a thief, which is not to your spiritual advantage.

«Deep down you want to matter in the scheme of things, that’s obvious.»

Yes, but you must be aware of the prayer: “God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, courage to change the things I can, and wisdom to know the difference.”

Is China really a threat to Australia or are the Greens?

The Greens probably represent the remnants of the sense of conscience and social fairness once touted by the Labor Party and although they get double the primary votes of the Nationals they cannot implement any policies - yet the coalition itself is an example of the tail wagging the dog argument they are making.

The so-called and hypothetical Labor/Green alliance is Liberal scare-mongering like their war against Independents, who would likely hold the balance of power in the case of a hung Parliament.

Gillard managed to govern and pass more legislation in a hung Parliament than during all subsequent governments so it can be done.

Yuyutsu

Your beautifully kept garden of honesty has been trampled by a herd of evil Elephants Yuyutsu. I think your not genuine in supporting the principle of not voting as a protest.

First and foremost (as the saying goes), your confused with the Political issues.
This one for a start: “Greens Say “China No Threat To Australia“.
At the moment, I think they have some hold on reality.

The Chinese have already achieved their immediate aims in Australia.
“Those with the most to lose have the most to fear” Yuyutsu.
Firstly those with the most to fear are the greedy capitalists who with the @ble assistance of their “movers”, set up China as a manufacturing giant by “moving” wholesale, the ability of the West to manufacture anything much of worth.
Now they are stuck with the consequences.

Quite frankly, I consider that point, a fact more amusing than it is as a need to fear.
China has already got the lot, free of charge.
The facilitators of that little bit of madness, are the crowd you want to pick and choose from to support with your vote…very silly Yuyutsu, and not very honest!

And speaking of madness, the policemen of the world, (Our own fond Uncle), has destroyed Gods plan for salvation, again with total dishonesty and with a little bit of help from the devil disguised as the Democrats, by illegally dispensing with Donald Trump, and installing a child from a nursing home in his place, who in turn is under the control of a six foot tall white Easter Bunny!

China doesn’t have the slightest need to fight anybody for world domination, it already has it!
And since our disconnected Uncle has forced a fraternal bond between Russia and China even tighter, with a convenient little war in Ukraine, chances of any control over China on the world stage are now even slimmer.

Follow my lead Yuyutsu, when we can find a way to vote with a bullet, then and only then will I vote willingly!

Dan.

Hi rache,

"cannot implement any policies" I once put that question to a Greens MP in NSW. He said there is more than one way to get things done. By agitation of an issue, what is radical today can be made mainstream tomorrow. Most topical type legislation is not thought up by the Government of the day, but is the end result often of years of putting that issue out there for debate, airing opinions etc.

The Greens were the first mainstream party to support gay marriage, a reduction in CO2, and there are many more examples. At first these issues are labeled "radical", but over time with debate, and good reasoning, they become accepted. The other function of the Greens is to give voice to those who don't have a say in the normal course of events. We have enough representation to make a difference. The Coalition has never spontaneously initiated social reform, in fact they try their best to sabotage it. Labor, disappointedly is no longer the party of reform, but likes to play one upmanship with the Coalition. There are too many political eyes on the ballot box, and not enough on people. What is good to see, there are still some people in both the Liberal and Labor parties with a social conscience.

ps. Just like he tried to bury Gay Marriage, Morrison would like to Bury a Federal ICAC, Labor was half hearted at first, but for political reasons they are now onboard. This was brought about by agitation from Independents and the Greens. Imagine back in the day, if you had put the need for a Federal ICAC to 'Pig Iron' Bob, you would have been branded a Communist and locked up for 20 year. Like Morrison, 'Pig Iron' Bob was no great reformists. Can anyone tell me of any Social Reform that the conservative side of political didn't ridicule, but supported from the word go.

cont

cont'

A little bit of history; When Jack Lang introduced a modest child endowment of 5/- a week in NSW, the Conservatives opposed it on the grounds it would make women "tainted women", seems it was better they starve than be tainted. Later the Menzies government was forced to introduce child endowment nationally.

God Bless you, Dan:

«when we can find a way to vote with a bullet, then and only then will I vote willingly!»

Is that what Jesus would have done?

«The Chinese have already achieved their immediate aims in Australia.»

I would like to think that it is still reversible.

And it is worth investigating whether this or that party, if elected, is more likely to reverse this trend.

«And speaking of madness, the policemen of the world, (Our own fond Uncle), has destroyed Gods plan for salvation»

So you consider God such a weakling?

I tell you, with God's help even China cannot lift a finger. Let us pray!

"The Greens were the first mainstream party to support gay marriage, a reduction in CO2".

Don't we know it! Anything to drag down morals and ruin the country economically. The Greens are not mainstream; they are 10% weirdos, sticking to Labor like limpets as their only chance of being noticed.

Not so sure about the Greens being ineffective.
If they were there would be none of the fear-mongering
against them - or so much debate about them. They would be
irrelevant - yet they're not. And doesn't their Leader -
Adam Bandt - represent the electorate of Melbourne?
And don't they have seats in Parliament and are hoping
for more seats this election?

ttbn, the day you start supporting anything Green, then that's the day for me to get out. Your recent declared support for The Lovely Pauline, Fat Clive and What's His Name, shows how out of touch YOU are. The party of leeches is the Nationals and the biggest leach of all is Barnyard Joy. The Greens have 9 senators soon to be 11 or 12, one House of Representative member, not the 15 proportional representation, a cornerstone of democracy, would give them.

Do you actually listen to the ravings of ex con Hanson, the rip-off Fat Clive or the shyster with the name no one can pronounce, music to your ears, they are a bunch of raving lunatics, but like Corny Banana before them they suck a Useful Idiot like YOU right in.

Politically, what have YOU ever done? Besides joining some Fascists party and getting ripped-off.

Foxy

Who said the Greens were "ineffective"? They effect all sorts of idiots, particularly the young; and even some old idiots like Paul.

ttbn,

Read your own post at the end of page 9.

Yuyutsu

Thank you Yuyutsu. You’ve restored my faith in a belief, people don’t change, and especially not their spots!

Dan

Morrison asks Albanese why he and Wong blame Australia for China and the Solomontown deal instead of blaming China and the Solomons. No answer, of course,

And Channel 9 says that Chinese ships and planes could be arriving in the Solomons within a couple of weeks.

No worries. She'll be right. The Greens say so.

The PM answered toe criticism of why he, or someone more senior
did to go to Honiora. He said they had been following the
matter for some time.
For security reasons he could not say more.
My bet is they were monitoring from the start and knew it was all
sewn up.

Both the leader of the Opposition and Penny Wong both
gave their reasons quite clearly as to why they
blamed the PM for not doing more on the China Solomon
Islands pact. And even Julie Bishop commented that
Marise Payne should have flown out to try to persuade
the deal not be signed. However - it's been signed
done and dusted. We can only hope that things will
remain stable and that we shall continue to have good
relations with the Solomon Islands.

Hi Bazz,

I agree with you on this China - Solomon Island pact.
I doubt if things could have been changed by anyone.

Better to handle it the way it was rather than have the
PM or someone go and have the paper waved in their face.

Bazz,

Peter Jennings of the ASPI said something along those lines. It was a done deal, and there was no point in sending the Foreign Minister.

Mind you, I would not send Marise Payne to collect the eggs. A less inspiring politician could not be found. She was a crap defence minister, and is now a crap foreign minister. She must have something on Morrison to be where she is.

Has the Darwin Harbour stuff-up increased any possible threat from China ?

Some are saying that the Solomons will be our Cuba. No JFK-like figure here to deal it, though.

the Solomons will be our Cuba
ttbn,
Anyone thinking the Solomon Islanders will forego money from China in favour of being Australia's friend for a petty few million Dollars has rocks for brains !
And, yes it will be the Cuba of the South Pacific. Just you wait for the stream of migrants from there to Qld.

Solomon's opposition leader, Peter Kenilorea, has told Andrew Bolt that the deal with China is not for the benefit of his country, but for that of the PM and his government, which is unpopular, and in need of Chinese support. Most of the businesses in the Solomons are owned by ethnic Chinese, who also want the support of the CCP.

Dutton, Abbott and Morrison were caught out laughing about the climate change concerns of Pacific Islanders ("Time doesn't mean anything when you're about to be you know have water lapping at your door" and then they cut foreign aid.

Apart from using them to pick our fruit when it's convenient for us it's no wonder the Solomons and others have little faith in Australia's genuine interests in them and are prepared to look elsewhere.

As well as the Darwin Port fiasco, Morrison and Birmingham were once praising the Belt-and-Road initiative during their trip to China and later at at the Press Club a few years ago said "Australia welcomes the opportunity to cooperate on infrastructure investments in other countries, in third countries, where it is in the interests of that third country, where it is valuable infrastructure investment, where it respects the sovereignty of that third country and where it is financially suitable and appropriate for that third country."

I forgot to include that the last quote was about the option of Australia partnering with China on such Belt-and-Road Initiative projects in other countries and that was despite the trade war that was underway at the time.

"Australia welcomes the opportunity to cooperate on infrastructure investments in other countries, in third countries,
rache,
Go back even further & you'll find statements like "cars will never take over from horses".
Or, "this thing will never fly".
Statements made at the time do not reflect the values of today. Circumstances change & ideas & policies must change also.
We must try & change the dumbing-down mentality of today's Left if we don't want to go down the tube.

"God Bless America. God Save The Queen.
God defend New Zealand and Thank CHRIST
for Australia."

(Russel Crowe).

Oh come on Rache, where have you been hiding ?
The Coastal Institute at Aukland uni put that hoary old one to
bed about the sinking Islands.
They would have been laughing because the Island countries were
asking for western countries to pay $Bs for rising sea levels.
Since 1945 over 60% of the islands of the Pacific have increased
in size. some 30% are the same size and the rest are smaller.
You have been had and the governments woke up to the con.

What else in the global warming scheme is a con ?

Very civil of Russell Crowe, who is unable to obtain Australian citizenship.

First time I heard of the Fusion Party today & they're distancing themselves from Labor & Greens & not keen on the liberals either.
Anyone know some more of that outfit ?

See Wikipedia, individual. Another bunch of nutters like the Greens. They are a 'fusion' of the Science Party, Pirate Party,
Secular Party, Vote Planet, and Climate Change Justice Party, none of which I have heard of either.

They don't have much of a chance of wresting the 'nuttiest party ever' title off the Greens.

Well, still no answers about how an ALP government will enforce payment
for excess co2 emissions.
I see today why. Marles was asked about it today and he obviously did
not have a clue.
All he could say was, that question has been answered !
It had not. He was totally lost mumbling "already answered".
I think the aluminium smelters will already be packing up.

It looks as though Albozo's 2IC is deeply in China's pocket like Shanghai Sam before him. Along with claiming China's investment in the pacific was a good thing:

"Deputy Labor leader Richard Marles praised China’s record on human rights, credited Xi Jinping with being a “deeply impactful President” and said Australia should stay out of contested disputes in the South China Sea, echoing a sentiment uttered by then-senator Sam Dastyari a year earlier. Mr Marles, Labor’s defence spokesman at the time, made the unscripted remarks, at odds with party policy, in a Q&A session following a speech at Oxford University in October 2017.

In a video recording of the previously unpublished remarks obtained by The Australian, Mr Marles praised China’s human rights contribution and described it as a “force for good”. “You can make an argument that it’s as big a contribution to human rights in terms of the alleviation of poverty that comes from it that we have seen in our lifetimes,” he said.

A mention of violations came in a sentence that drew an equivalence with Australia’s record of abuses. “And so while there will be criticisms, you know, of China’s human rights record here and there, as there will be criticisms of Australia’s, it’s important to really recognise what contribution China has made, and it’s huge.”

Mr Marles claimed that while Australia and China “have different political systems, China is, on balance, unquestionably a force for good”.

Marles is off his rocker. How could anyone want such a treacherous deputy PM. He is talking like the Chinese ambassador. Everything China does is all Australia's fault.

The Australian reported on Friday that prospective Labor defence minister and Solomon Islands expert, Richard Marles, had repeatedly encouraged China to build closer ties to Pacific countries and dismissed fears that China would seek to subjugate and militarise these nations. “The idea the Pacific nations would adhere to a call from Australia to not engage with China is silly,” Marles said.

SI is not the only threat. Don't forget China's deal with PNG. Darus Island is not 1700 kms from our coast. It is only 200kms.

While the usual yappers are saying that Dutton's call to prepare for war is "over the top", China appears to be preparing for war with Australia.

It should be a very short war, after our 3 days reserve of fuel is gone.

Adam Bandt, said
"Coal & gas corporations are fueling the climate crisis and communities are footing the bill.
Our policy will ensure that flood victims are able to sue them for the damage they’ve done. It’s time the culprits were held accountable & paid up.
Unlike Liberal & Labor we don’t take donations from the coal & gas corporations fuelling the crisis, so you can trust us to push the next Government to hold them to account".

Has he stopped using fossil fuel, oils and products manufactured by coal - his car? otherwise, a hypocrite.

If coal and gas - any mining and activities the Greens hate - go, there will be no money to pay for all the grands schemes Green Labor waffles on about. Had another flyer from the sitting Labor member today: still nothing on China and defence, just more free stuff to be handed out. Cut out our biggest exports but still plenty of freebies. How will they be paid for? More taxes.

The Coalition didn't see China as a threat when they sold off the Port of Darwin to them and then saw the Minister responsible become a board member of the Chinese company at $800,000 per annum.

Abbott as PM expressed Australia’s wish to ‘be a true friend’ to China and ‘help build the Asian Century'.

Abbott was set to accept an invitation by China to become a founding member of its Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank and was only talked out of it by Obama.

Yet we are going after the Greens for some God forsaken reason?

All true.

The difference being China has changed. The Greens have not.

Japan has sent a the vice foreign minister to SI.

Japan believes that the China-SI deal "could affect the security of the Asia Pacific and (they) are watching the development with concern". It is a "threat to some of the world's "busiest sea lanes".

Sogvare's claim that there will be no Communist Chinese military base cannot be taken for granted. Unfortunately, Morrison has not been able to say what he would do if it did happen.

You don't say what you will do, you just leave them wondering.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1518708161846202368

Need I say more!

Michael Shoebridge of Australian Strategic Policy Institute is probably right when he says that Sogavare wants Chinese police and Chinese military to keep him in power AGAINST HIS OWN PEOPLE.

What about something even more local -
the Darwin Port to China?

shadowminister,

You have actually posted something from the "completely biased" ABC? What gives? I thought they were full of Green voters who don't have a bad word to say about them.

Dear Foxy,

Nor should we forget "Liberal backbencher Gladys Liu has admitted she was a member of a Chinese government propaganda unit in a sudden shift in position that has deepened a dispute over her loyalty to Australia."
http://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/gladys-liu-s-beijing-confession-deepens-dispute-over-loyalty-20190911-p52qec.html

Just imagine if she was a member of the Greens what a hullabaloo there would be. But absolute silence from our tawdry lot of rightwingers.

Dear Steele,

The CCP's propaganda outlet "The Global Times" has
published a series of articles endorsing Liberal
Party Leader Scott Morrison. It has commended
Morrison's "reason and judgement" in his staunch defence
of Gladys Liu.

The government owned publication which strictly promotes the
CCP has praised Morrison as well as his "confucius wisdom."

Dear Foxy,

Well at least we have the Chasers (shadowminister's latest love) parody remix to cheer us up a little.

Warning - strong language.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkyuI3oiGNE

Even better right at this moment it is topping the iTunes charts.

http://www.itunescharts.net/aus/

Dear Steele,

Top of the charts - no wonder!

So clever.

Hey ttbn,

http://www.2gb.com/chinas-denials-over-solomon-islands-not-credible/

"It will bring real military tensions into the South Pacific, and its got the prospect of bringing pretty brutal Chinese security forces into the Solomons to be used by Sogavare against his own people."

I think he only got it half-right.
Yes I'm sure China will build a base there at some point, and I think there is certainly the potential of bringing Chinese security forces into the Solomons to be used by Sogavare against his own people.
In fact I think its probably likely now.

If any of this happens it will be the Wests fault for interfering.
And its already threatening to do so.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/apr/26/us-wont-rule-out-military-action-if-china-establishes-base-in-solomon-islands

“We wanted to outline for our friends in the Solomons, what our concerns are,”
- I'm pretty sure that's a threat - do as we say or else -

It will be the pressure from the US, Australia and other concerned Western nations that will lead the US to build their Embassy (already just been announced) and from there organise further civil unrest in the Solomons in order to try and oust Sogavare and put in a leader more suitable to Western interests.

At this point Sogavare will use certainly use Chinese security forces (as he's already done) to put down the unrest, caused by the Wests interference.

It could be that the original protest was caused by the West, let me look.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-26/solomon-islands-pm-blames-foreign-powers-for-civil-unrest/100652048

Yep just as suspected, took 20 seconds to see the bigger picture here...
When will you learn the Wests modus operandi?

You know it really saddens me just how clueless everybody really is.
I think it can't possibly be by any kind of mistake, it must be by design.

Everything you lot think you know IS MOSTLY ALL BS.
90% of what you're fed is propaganda, the worst part is no-one can tell the difference, so you just lap up more of the crap that is spoon fed to you.

What do you want, the red pill or the blue pill?

Take the red pill, you can look under the covers and see how it all really works.
Take the blue pill, you can go back to the tv and your news columns not-worth-the-paper-its-witten-on opinion pieces with the bias 'dumb as a box of rocks' analysis and remain a useful idiot parroting output no different to censored narrative-driven input you're already all lapping up.

Watch this or stay dumb.
All Wars Are Bankers' Wars
http://youtu.be/Us58XnwBePU
If you don't understand this, then you don't understand anything.

Now watch this
Scott Ritter: A Conversation About Ukraine Part 1.
http://youtu.be/-fNrnWxXhP0

Scott Ritter: A Conversation About Ukraine Part 2.
http://youtu.be/jQSTHvD2z1c

Once you watch this you whole understanding of how the world works (money and wars) is going to immediately change.
You will understand that everything you think you know is just lies and narrative.
Next the second videos, this guy was a UN weapons inspector and went to Russia.
He's a military intelligence officer that planned Desert Storm.

[Cont.]

[Cont.]
Do you want to know what's really going on or do you want to stay dumb?
Do you want to know about the NAZI's,
Do you want to know Putins objectives?
You want a true assessment of the war and the Russian citizens perspective from a military strategists point of view?
Do you want to know about the Russian 'atrocities'?
Do you want to know how the birthing hospital was evacuated because it held a good strategic position prior to Russian forces arriving?
STAGED
Do you want to know about the Russian 'atrocities' in Bucha?
STAGED
They're Ukrainian Death Squads going door to door killing anyone they considered 'collaborator'
- And soon to be using our Bushmasters, I can't wait to see them blown to smithereens

If you don't understand this, then you don't understand anything.
You're all just useful idiots, all of you.
- And I don't say that to offend, it truly saddens me the state of this country, it's people, and the crap we're all fed.

WAKE UP AUSTRALIA

How much does all this crap cost and who pays?
Why are they hiding this about Ukraine?
http://youtu.be/WZpzPWnoHGk

- ALL WARS ARE BANKERS WARS -

It's really about time you lot all opened your eyes, seriously.
- No one will force you, you all need to choose it.
Otherwise stay dumb and we'll all pay for it in the end.

The agreement allows for Chinese police and "Security" to be used to
protect Chinese projects. Why would any country allow the police
from the country of a foreign company to enter to protect that
companies property ?
They wouldn't ! That is the clue, sooner or later the Chinese police
will react like they do in China and attack a crowd of locals.
It might take several incidents like that before a real revolt will
occur and the Chinese will be slaughtered.
Then either the Chinese will withdraw or Chinese Army will occupy the country.
Isn't that we way it was in Tibet ?

Foxy said- "The government owned publication which strictly promotes the CCP has praised Morrison as well as his "confucius wisdom.""

Answer- I would have thought that correlating Morrison with Confucism was a criticism rather than praise given that Mao Communists tried to destroy Confucism as a competing ideology. Despite the Communist parties mouthpiece "The Confucius Institute". But I'd need to see the articles context.

The Confucius institute has been going into Australian schools and getting them to sing the Chinese Communist National Anthem.

Confucius believed that the family is the atom of society- in contradiction to the nihilist Communists.

Paul1405 said- "They all look the same to ttbn, he met a Chinese person once, down at the Golden Dragon takeaway when he was picking up his Short Soup order."

Answer- I think perhaps Paul1405 is one "Short Soup order" short of a menu.

I think Taiwanese are ethnically, genetically and somewhat culturally Chinese even if they are not of Chinese nationality. They both eat Paul1405's "Short Soup" perhaps. It's fascinating that the left will deny the existence of nations and ethnicity when it suits themselves.

It appears that Japanese are related to Korean's genetically and 5% of Japan is apparently Korean. Japanese tend to have longer torso's than Korean's probably due to the interbreeding with native tribes after migration thousands of years before. Asian's have the distinctive Eye Fold as well as other traits that mark them as belonging to the genetics of the Chinese diaspora which seems to be the root power of the region historically- which is probably why it's known as the middle kingdom.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4536062/

Kudos ttbn

I just listened to a podcast of Ray Hadley cutting Albo new one. Oh, boy! If that man and his CCP-lovers gain government power, it really will be all over for us.

The only beneficiaries of a Green Labor government would be Communist China and people smugglers.

The CCP is backing Morrison for Prime Minister. The CCP's proaganda outlet "The Global Times,"has published a series of
articles endorsing Scott Morrison.
Australia should be worried.

Some people think that polysyllables are a sign
of intelligence. Others have an inclination for quotation
which is a serviceable substitute for wit.

Foxy,

Xi has endorsed Labor. Albozo and Marles are so deep into the CCP's pockets that they can't see daylight.

Scott Morrison certainly can see daylight - nothing
to do with morality of course - but everything to do with
self-interest. We have his comments made in 2017 -
where he stated "China provides a real stability in the
region." Then in 2019 Morrison addressed the Asialink
summit saying Australia should embrace more investment
from China.

His comments also supported China's controversial belt and
road initiative " We welcome Chinese investment. We have
welcomed it for decades," Mr Morrison said in June 2019.

"The infrastructure needs of the region are enormous and
Australia welcomes the contribution that the Belt and
Road initiative can make to regional infrastructure
investment and to regional development."

The comments to the summit are 4 years after the lease of
the Port of Darwin was made to a company with links to the
CCP which raised numerous security concerns since.

And of course we then have Gladys Liu who's won the PM's
support. Even though ASIO has warned about her connections.

Who's in whose pockets? We man well ask!

shonky,

ScumO' has made a Captains Pick, Gladys Liu for the blue ribbon LIBERAL seat of "BEIJING" which the Liberals hold on a margin of 100%.

Foxy,

You are really grasping at straws. You are essentially taking snippets of discussions out of context and assigning intentions to them that SM never intended.

In other words, you are lying.

Pauliar,

I see that your pedogreens are well represented in the child molester sections of the prisons.

I believe that your feeble leader Adam (bum) Bandit is happy to bend over for Xi.

After stepping up to the Super Heavyweights, poor ScumO' Morrison was outclassed when taking on Xi of China. ScumO' suffered two black eyes, a cut lip and lost four front teeth, before his corner could throw the towel in halfway through the first round. All ScumO' could utter after the fight was; "Did anyone get da number of dat BUS!" In a more even contest ScumO' is back in the flyweight division where he's slugging it out with Man Sog of the Solomon Islands in a ten rounder. Halfway through the fight ScumO' is way behind on points, suffering several unexpected blows from Sog to the solar plexus. ScumO' has been down twice for the count only to be saved by the bell. Things don't look good for ScumO' Morrison as he is taking on Honour Natano from Tuvalu in a fortnight. This will be Natano's first fight, but he will start hot favourite to defeat the hapless ScumO' of Australia.

"I see that your pedogreens are well represented in the child molester sections of the prisons."

What's that shonky, can you see them from your cell?

Pauliar,

Is it true that Adam (bum) Bandit is pregnant with Xi's child?

shonky, leave the comedy to me, that's not even funny, it lacks wit, there's no pizzazz in it. A typical deadpan old crusty conservative come back from you, it went down like a lead balloon!

Dear Paul,

Not all questions can be answered.

For examble - shadowminister once asked:

"What's he got that I haven't got?"

Answer:

"Awareness!"

"What's that?"

Dear Paul,

Scott Morrison once said:

"Just let awareness have its way with you
completely!"

To all Comrades,

Happy International Labour Day.

I see 'Hard Boiled' Newman is running for the Senate in Queensland as a candidate for the phoney Liberal Democrats, a party that is neither liberal or democratic as the name tries to imply. This was well demonstrated by the Senate actions of their past representative, the man with the name that no one can pronounce, lierman, lunyscam that's it Leyonhjelm. Well we all know what a low life in the parliament Leyonhjelm proved to be , would Newman be any different?

Pauliar,

You haven't yet had a funny post. You moronic confuse snide abuse with humour.

I have also heard that SHY wants to transition to a woman?

Anthony Daniels: "Most people say …. that elections make little or no difference whoever is elected: everything remains the same, the ship of state, like a great tanker, cannot change direction but merely the crew on the bridge, all drawn from a class separate from the rest of the population (the political class), with its own interests and class solidarity that transcend apparent ideological differences."

shadowminister,

Perhaps you might consider transitioning to
a human being?

A Pommy Tory has taken a leaf out of the Aussie Tories handbook, like Barnyard Joy and 'Cry Baby' Porter. Some Pommy Turd was caught watching PORN in Parliament (twice). He makes some of our Coalition members here like the "Up Skirter" or the Desk Blower, look positively virtuous.

In more shocking news a senior Liberal has been charge with RAPE in Parliament House.

Foxy,

After you.

Pauliar,

He takes more after the greens except they downloaded kiddie porn and got convicted.

shadowminister,

Mahatma Gandhi once stated:

"Humanity is an ocean, if a few drops of the ocean
are dirty, the ocean does not become dirty."

It's up to you. Don't look to change others.
Look to change yourself.

What happens in the Coalition"s corridors of power!

In one office, a senior Liberal is raping another senior Liberal, across the hall a Coalition leader is getting his rocks off with the office secretary, whilst praying for his wife and kids. Up the hallway runs an LNP "Upskirter" his phone camera off a long selfie stick. One senior female minster is yelling at the top of her voice; "SHE'S A LYING BITCH", who; "the one getting raped". While another in her office is furiously pork barrelling to win votes. As this is going on 'Cry Baby" Porter's brief shonkyminister is telling his client; "Don't worry Baby, I'll get ya $10 million plus, a groveling apology from the ABC, and a hundred ABC staff sacked to pay for it all." ......"Are you sure Mr Shonky?"...."Trust me, I handled the famous "Beat Up" Bolt case, an arrest in that business is imminent, any day now, possibly soon, maybe, Ah I'm not sure."

What happens in the Greens corridor?

There is one Senior green raping children, and there is another senior green raping children, and another senior green stealing and beating up gays, and finally a green MP abusing his staff.

When you sling the mud around
Do be careful not to lose ground
Cause the only mud that can overflow
Is the mud without thinking that we throw.

Not quite off thread, but probably has the readers that would be interested;
This extract by Douglass MUrray is very relevant to our whole existence.

The War on the West.
https://tinyurl.com/2zx54w8n

I will interested to hear your comments.

Hi Bazz,

Your link doesn't work. It's got a paywall.

shonky,

YOUR report card reads;

MUST DO BETTER.... A BIG FAT 'F'.....FAILED.

You have to pizzazz...no delivery...nothing....HOW ABOUT like me some originality, you've got none of that, unfortunately just a crusty old conservative plonker.

Pauliar,

Given your staggering incompetence and your snide humourless posts, I couldn't give a sh1t about your opinion.

shonky,

A tad upset are we with our report card, too bad so sad.

Another FAILURE is your pin up boy and folk hero, no I'm not talking about, Hitler, it's ScumO' Morrison and his complete economic failure, INTEREST RATES UP, COST OF LIVING UP. What's he giving 22c off petrol which is up 35% in a year.

Pauliar

You are acting like a child which is probably why you were such a loser in life.

The problem that the coalition has is that they have the best growth rate and the lowest unemployment since 2007 which pushes up inflation and thus interest rates.

Labor was much better at keeping interest rates lower with a higher unemployment rate and lower growth rate.