This is interesting-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empire#The_Seven_Stages_of_Empire

Glubb noted that in all these example, the penultimate age was marked by defensiveness, pessimism, materialism, frivolity, an influx of foreigners, the Welfare State, and a weakening of religion. He attributed this decadence to an excessively long period of wealth and power, selfishness, love of money, and the loss of a sense of duty

Foxy,

You have simply echoed the Labor excuses.

For example, what do YOU mean by The government's initial proposal was light on both power and resources? I bet you don't have a clue.

The proposal had the full capability to subpoena people and question them. No ICAC can prosecute crimes only recommend prosecution. This one is no different.

The rejection by Labor was not on merit but just a political stunt.

shadowminister,

No I am not simply echoing Labor's excuses.
Blaming Labor is what the Coalition is doing.
However -
The web is full of information on this subject. It's
not that difficult to find.

The Centre for Public Integrity found that the Morrison
government's proposed agency would be "the weakest
integrity commission in the country, "leaving a raft
of political scandals relating to the abuse of public office
free from scrutiny."

For example you can't have a public sector division
covering parliamentarians and bureaucrats that would have
no power to exercise search warrants, hold public hearings
or even make public - findings of corruption, criminal
conduct or "misconduct at large."

There's more at:

http://smh.com.au/national/fact-check-what-did-morrison-say-about-a-federal-icac-20220415-p5adq9.html

One of many links on the web.

Foxy,

Did you read the reference to Margaret Cunneen where a senior barrister was publicly accused of corruption, had her house searched and her phone and laptop confiscated with absolutely zero evidence by NSW ICAC?

It is perfectly possible for an ICAC to do its job with the significant powers allocated under Morrison's plan using the federal police and the judiciary to execute search warrants etc. What is not possible is to do any of these things without a threshold of evidence.

And by the way, the proposal is not very different to the bodies in Victoria and SA.

shonky,

Like in SA will we see a conga line of corrupt Liberals marching out the door? It could be headed by Cry Baby Porter, Barnyard Joy and Touchy Tudge, of course they are plenty more to join in, Upskirter, Desk Blower, the list goes. What do I see at the back of the line, its ScumO' (where are Jan and the girls?) wiggling his hips, and waving his hands, singing HALLELUJAH!

Pauliar,

There have already been 2 senior greens convicted of paedophilia, one Green councillor facing homophobic assault charges so there is no integrity there. Perhaps will see a conga line of pedogreens before the future ICAC.