ttbn,

I feel that our nation needs diverse voices around the
table. A diversity of thought, background, heritage,
race and gender - all add up to the capability of any
leader to make a decision. It makes our nation stronger
and better.

Whilst ever PMT can be used as a defence for out of character actions by pre-menopausal women there is no place for such women, unless on suppressant medication, to be in critical combat positions where the lives of their fellow military can depend on their ability to think clearly and act decisively.

Foxy,

The thread is about the abuse of K Kitching by Labor MPs that you are desperately trying to avoid.

The reality is that for left whingers abuse of women by left whingers is OK, it is only when the faintest mistreatment by conservatives occurs that feminists will take any action.

Grace Tame and Brittany Higgins are notable for their silence.

shadowminister,

I have dealt with the Coalition's and the Murdoch press
attempted politicisation of Kimberley Kitching's death.
Nothing further needs to be added. There's an election coming
up so their behaviour and finger-pointing is understandable.
Nothing more needs to be said.

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The NY Times asked female soldiers and veterans to share their
experiences in the military. Here's just a few selections of their
words:

"My male counterparts were deemed competent and capable until
they proved otherwise where on the other hand It was often
assumed that I was incompetent until I proved I was not."

Diana Kramer - deployed overseas 5 times. She was the only
woman assigned to her unit in 4 out of her 5 deployments.

"Because we are female, a lot of respect slips through the
cracks and we are treated as though we aren't worth as much
as a male. We work twice as hard to het half as far."

Marylin Wordman. She was deployed overseas 3 times. Each time
serving in units where women made up 10 to 25 percent of the
squad.

Foxy,

What’s their combat record?
Were they under fire?
Did they kill?
Wounded in action?

Kimberly Kitchen had told a friend how bad Wong was back in 2021, and had filed two complaints of bullying with Chris Marles, and an outside consultant who had been giving training on safe and respectful workplaces.

I wonder if the three mean girls attended the training. It's a horrible thought that two of them could be ministers in the next federal government. Wouldn't that be a good look! How could anyone believe that they are fit to be parliamentarians, let alone ministers of the crown.