Foxy,

I don't need to wade through an Australian War Memorial site to see what I already know - that women have been in the services and still are, and what a good job they have done, and undoubtedly still do, mainly in support roles.

I had a quick look, and it seemed to be a 'feel good' project, all part of the feminisation of the military, which is the in thing these days. Look at the TV recruitment ads and you would think that we have gone back to the days of the Iceni and Boudica. No men in sight. It is said that the Iceni women actually fought the Romans - they didn't just support male troops - killing about 70,000 of them.

If I did plough through your reference, would I find how many of the girls actually fought and were killed fighting in the past, and how many in any recent conflicts since in Korea, Vietnam or the Middle East. How many of them were, or are now, at the pointy end in say, the infantry, airforce or navy, where they could be required to go into action to kill or be killed at any time.

Doing basic training, then going into a job not much different from the ones you could get in civvy street doesn't make you a soldier.

Where are Britany Higgins and Grace Tame with regards to the abuse of KK?

Absolutely nowhere! These two posers have shot themselves in the foot.

SM

Good point. The feminista hypocrisy is appalling.

Talking about hypocrisy?

It wasn't me that tried to "divert" this
discussion. ttbn on page 3 made the comment
that "women are not meant for politics, AFL,
cricket, military service,
police, etc." I merely responded to his comment
by asking him to broaden his outlook on women
and gave a link of women in the military as an
example. ttbn said that he was already aware of
those facts. Go figure.

I also did give a reference to Brigadier Simone Wilkie.
Who was the first woman to command Australian
troops. She was the first National Commander, Afghanistan,
and the first woman to be in command of Australian soldiers
at war.

Brigadier Wilkie (47) was the National Commander
Afghanistan and in charge of all 1500 Australian personal
serving with ADF units and embedded with international
forces in the combat zone.

Brigadier Wilkie has emphatically stated that:

" I don't believe gender should preclude you serving
your nation. If you look across all sorts of occupations in
Australia we have women on the front line every day.
They are called police women. The critical thing is being
able to pass the physical."

There's more at the following link:

http://adelaidenow.au/news/national/first-woman-to-command-aussie-soldiers/news-story/306fb7cea989692292fb2f9a1e95e230

Here's the link again:

http://adelaidenow.au/news/national/first-woman-to-command-aussie-soldiers/news-story/306fb7cea98969229efb2f9a1e95e230

It is disgusting how the term "mean girls" has been
bandied about so liberally by the Coalition and
outlets of the Murdoch Press. They seem to have a
pre-occupation with politicising her sudden death
into further devaluing women, than putting a red
line under damaging workplace culture.

While the stress over her Senate pre-selection may have
been a contributing factor in her undexpected death
and she may have used the term privately of "mean girls"
I doubt whether she'd feel comfortable about all
this flowing into public debates nor the way an
opportunistic and agenda driven media have jumped on
all this ahead of an election.

We can all question whether she'd want her life and
legacy in the political arena (which was profound) to be
detracted from, or for her family and friends to have
to deal with the additional hurt and heartbreak of
seeing all this play out so publicly.