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What does Putin want?

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War crimes? The supposed war criminal has to be defeated and judged by the victor. Just who is going to defeat Putin and judge him?
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 2 March 2022 8:18:04 AM
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Dear Shadowminister,

You still don't understand. I do not approve of the actions of Putin or the Russian government. I feel sorrow for the Russian soldiers who are not there of their own choosing and who are caught up in a war not of their own making. Like most soldiers they are where they are because they were sent there and felt they had no alternative but to go.

I see no point in discussing this further as we are talking past each other.
Posted by david f, Wednesday, 2 March 2022 9:18:51 AM
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Dropping the bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were war crimes because dropping them on sparsely or virtually uninhabited country, such as Fujiyama, would have demonstrated the potential for destruction of cities quite vividly, they were used on cities primarily to see what the effect would be on humans and buildings; Nagasaki was a quick follow up experiment in case the war ended before the testing was complete.

As for the saving of potential casualties, this could have been achieved by not invading Japan, a complete blockade of the country would have brought Japan to surrender. No one was going to help them.
Posted by Is Mise, Wednesday, 2 March 2022 9:42:33 AM
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Dropping two atomic bombs on Japan was not a war crime because the perpetrators were victorious. The war criminals were the Japanese and the Germans because they lost. They were convicted at Nuremberg.

Putin will never be convicted of war crimes because the West will never take him on and beat him; so it's nonsense to even talk about war crimes.

The best the demented leader of the West can do is call Putin a bully. But Putin is not a bully.

Putin is a lunatic, who won't be beaten by the US or NATO, but "somehow … because of history", according to the other lunatic, Biden. By "wonderous mabic".
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 2 March 2022 10:21:43 AM
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David,

The only way that Putin is going to stop the conflict is if his armies suffer significant losses in men and materiel. Seeing the Russian soldiers, tanks, aircraft that are deliberately killing civilians being destroyed is far better than seeing the bodies of children killed by them.

IM,

Prior to the atomic bombing, the US had firebombed just about every city killing 110 000 on the first day in Tokyo alone and millions by the time the first A-bomb was dropped. It was clear that Japan cared little about its civilians, even the devastation of the A-bomb didn't convince them, but the second finally did the trick.
Posted by shadowminister, Wednesday, 2 March 2022 10:47:08 AM
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Thanks for your feedback Armchair Critic. Sorry for taking so long to get back to you. You've made some interesting points as have others.
Posted by Canem Malum, Wednesday, 2 March 2022 1:14:17 PM
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