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What does Putin want?

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Putin believes he is on a religious crusade to reinstate the old USSR and cleanse the area of drug additcs, nazi and gays, and he sent in a Muslim Chechen strike force of several humdred to capture and kill photographed Ukraine Government leaders cosying up to NATO.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10555871/Kyiv-comes-huge-aerial-artillery-bombardment-leaving-pulsing-glow-sk

As it is reported that 56 Russian tanks carrying this strike force was obliterated by the Ukrainian army. see photos
Posted by Josephus, Sunday, 27 February 2022 3:28:31 PM
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What does Trump think of the invasion according to the "Daily Mail",
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10555685/Trump-blasts-Biden-Putins-invasion-Ukraine.html

Trump said he was 'praying for the proud people of Ukraine' and expressed admiration for Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, calling him a 'brave man.'

'God bless them, they are indeed brave, as everyone understand this horrific disaster would never have happened if our election had not been rigged and if I was president.

Trump said he liked Zelensky 'because during that ridiculous impeachment waste of time the president of Ukraine said, "He did nothing wrong."'

Trump's first impeachment involved a call the ex-president made to the Ukrainian leader in July 2019. The president was accused of holding up military aid to Ukraine to push Zelensky to announce investigations into Joe and Hunter Biden.

'I was with Putin a lot, I spent a lot of time with him, 'It's a good thing to get along with people the ex-president protested.

'It would have been so easy for me to stop this travesty from happening,' Trump continued. 'He understood me, he understood I didn't play games.'

Much of Trump's one term in office was consumed by the FBI's investigation into Russian meddling in the 2020 election - and whether there was coordination with the Trump campaign.

The ex-president knocked Biden for being 'grossly incompetent' and poked fun at Biden's threat of sanctions, saying Putin's been getting sanctioned for the past 25 years.

Like several other CPAC speakers, Trump compared Russia's invasion of Ukraine to the U.S.'s own border crisis.

'Ukraine is a catastrophic disaster, but [it's] really interesting that so many Democrat politicians in Washington seem to be rushing to microphones to declare, "Ukraine's borders are sacred, we feel for Ukraine ... Ukraine's sovereignty must be protected at all costs,"' he noted. 'Even though they're destroying our own borders and our own sovereignty.'

'The Biden administration has spent months obsessing about how to stop an invasion of a country thousands of miles away,' Trump said. 'I believe americanss deserve a president who will stop an invasion of our country.
Posted by Josephus, Sunday, 27 February 2022 3:52:40 PM
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What the world needs to be reminded of is:

The USSR was a blood-stained regime
In which millions were murdered as a daily routine
Might is Right was their slogan of choice
Dissenting cries were not given a voice

History has written of the many disposed
The frozen infernos have now been exposed
Putin and Stalin are two of a kind
Yet some in the West to this are still blind

Putin like Stalin will take what he wants
He will kill and destroy those who fight in response
The world can't allow this rampage of terror
Not protecting Ukraine would be a huge error

First the Ukraine, then Romania
Followed by Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania
Do we want the USSR re-instated
Ruling Eastern Europe unabated?

The world must unite and be fully aware
That this is a battle that we all need to share
Putin must be stopped in his tracks
Otherwise no sovereign nation can truly relax
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 27 February 2022 8:41:52 PM
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When I heard the body count of 150 people the day after the invasion- it doesn't seem that the Russian's are acting extremely aggressively- given that they have 200+ thousand soldiers in the Ukraine. From those casualties I expect that there hasn't been much resistance by the Ukrainians and much aggression from the Russian's.

Less than an Indian pile up.

Though maybe due to the communications shutdowns and the speed of the invasion the numbers are underestimated.

I'd be interested what Is Mise or O Sung Wu thoughts are on this
Posted by Canem Malum, Monday, 28 February 2022 9:10:01 AM
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"The Atlantic and the Liberal Order"- If Putin is against the Liberal order I have to agree with him- whether I agree with his methods that's another thing- but who cares what The (apparently Socialist) Atlantic says anyway.
Posted by Canem Malum, Monday, 28 February 2022 9:18:42 AM
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Here is a list of Russian Business Billionaires.

http://www.businessinsider.com/meet-10-oligarchs-hit-by-ukraine-russia-conflict-sanctions-putin-2022-2?utm_campaign=sf-bi-main&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&r=AU&IR=T#8-andrey-sergeyevich-puchkov-a-high-ranking-executive-at-vtb-bank-russias-second-largest-financial-institution-puchkov-also-has-stakes-in-two-moscow-based-real-estate-companies-18
Posted by Josephus, Monday, 28 February 2022 12:32:02 PM
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