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Will We Never Learn

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Now a little further into this book, it seems to me that the goings on, which we can never understand from MSM reports, were inevitable. Ukraine wishes to join NATO. Imagine Putin's thoughts on having a possible NATO base next door. Article 5 of the NATO requires it to go to the aid of a fellow member under attack. Imagine the relief of Western European politicians that Ukraine is not such a member.

Another complication is that Russia is obliged by law to 'protect' the 8.5 million ethnic Russians in Ukraine.

Then there is Joe Biden who, in speech, has confused Ukraine with Afghanistan. What a mess!

Russia has felt the need to use aggression as defence, thanks to its huge, flat geography, since the time of Ivan the Terrible in the 16th Century. Not a lot seems to have changed. How lucky we are in Oz.
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 13 February 2022 3:26:50 PM
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The Ukraine people remember the invasion of the Russian KGB going door to door breaking down doors, arresting, and murdering in the 1940s. Putin a former KGB member does not hold much affection in Ukraine.
Posted by Josephus, Sunday, 13 February 2022 5:05:53 PM
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KGB going door to door breaking down doors, arresting, and murdering in the 1940s.
Josephus,
A lot has changed over the 80 years since. The descendants of the then bad are now the very ones who make every effort to never let happen what their forebears did. The real problem we have these days is the fact that the Baby boomers & their children have had it so good that they're blind & oblivious to the dangers their unproven & unworkable ideals are leading this society towards.
Just look at the domestic situation. The insipid masses are stuffing up anything they can get their hands on & then blame Governments for their own stupidity.
They literally are their own worst enemies !
Posted by individual, Sunday, 13 February 2022 5:19:00 PM
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"Pray tell what was Vietnam all about, in your opinion."

If the Gulf of Tonkin incident was a false flag, which it likely was

Then I'd say 50% was about stopping the spread of communism;
The other 50% was capitalising on the golden triangle with Air America.
+ Plus they also got to test out warfare on civilians with The Phoenix Program, and left a whole lot of men behind because they didn't pay the reparations to the Viet Cong
Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 13 February 2022 8:38:52 PM
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You're a mad woman Foxy.
- And I hate to say it, but as dumb as a box of rocks' as well.

Leo hey, ignorant arrogant know it all, just like my father I guess.

You're a muppet, a silly little stooge.

How is it that Putin is the aggressor when it's NATO that's encroaching on Russia, and Ukraine that wishes to take back Crimea (which seceded from Ukraine and joined Russia DEMOCRATICALLY)

With a build-up of NATO forces and the West sending arms to Ukraine isn't it only reasonable he would have the troops there?
And FYI they've been there for years.

Why does Nordstream have to be stopped?
Thats between Russia and Germany.
Would you rather Putin sold the gas to China, or do you just want to keep the foot on their throat?

Youse are all so dumb you all think this is about Russia invading the Ukraine.
But it's not, it's about NATO encroaching on Russia.
You're being SOLD a war, and you'll get one if you keep being so ignorantly complicit.
They need the support of dumbasses like you lot if they are to get their war.
The war that starts WW3 first needs your support.

Go beat your wardrums Foxy, I wish you could be parachuted in to the front line.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 13 February 2022 8:57:58 PM
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It's like the 1930's Europe when one lot tries to reclaim what was theirs initially & then money-power hungry outsider opportunists exploit the situation by starting a conflict.
All the while running propaganda to stir the rest into making it a world war !
Posted by individual, Sunday, 13 February 2022 9:07:41 PM
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