Is Mise,

Just complying with your request for some
"original thoughts." Of course realizing
at the same time that you won't like them.
However, that's all right. Not everyone has
good taste.

H Foxy,

Did you notice I tied Issy in knots, yet again, over Shooters and Hooters policy on so called owning a gun for the sole purpose of self-defence. He claimed only a moron would agree with Greens policy, that self-defence was not a legitmete stand alone reason for owning a gun. When pressed he said he agreed self-defence only was unreasonable, then I pointed to the Shooters and Hooters moronic policy of self-defence being a sole reason to own a gun. He didn't like me calling them morons.

Anyone who does not agree with Shooters and Hooters policy that allows five year old children to take loaded guns to school for self-defence from teachers and bullies is a moron!

Issy, your claim that an Old Fart can retrieve and load a gun from a locked gun safe in 2 seconds. You are full of it

I don't just read left wing media, but also listen to squark-back radio, read the "free" press and even watch commentators like that bloated Sky-weasel Paul Murray who seems to be yanking the chain of many posters here.
The "leftist" tag is a typical label that the right wingers like him like to use as some sort of generic answer to all arguments and frankly just makes me laugh. It's the new version of Godwin's Law.

Nonsense comments above like justifying the killings because the victims were somehow of poor character themselves is just typically blaming the victim and as if Rittenhouse magically knew this in advance as was some sort of avenging angel.

The day after his trial a white man was freed after raping a minor but a black woman got 5 years for "illegal voting". People carrying assault rifles around in public isn't the problem there but just another symptom of a society in decline.

The last example of self-motivated and media fed armed vigilantism in this country was probably the Christchurch Mosque shooting.

Definition of self-delusion….Paul.

Rache,
How about those references to back up your claims.

Dear rache,

Well said!

And please don't give any references to this guy.
He's only going to call them useless no matter what
you provide. Explaining anything to him is beyond his
comprehension. And a waste of your time. He's someone
who thinks that Hitler and Goering were heroic in their
day.

Foxy,
Hitler and Goering were brave and heroic, there can be no doubt about those facts but you can’t see beyond your self fitted blinkers and your apparent lack of historical knowledge.
Hitler shewed bravery on an almost daily basis in WWI and was decorated for it, as a lowly Corporal he had no way of awarding medals to himself.
Goering was a fighter pilot, an ace, and anyone who went up in a fighter in that war was brave, especially as they didn’t have parachutes.

If you don’t think that they were brave perhaps you might tell us why?