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Why free speech warriors from both sides should wish Jordan Shanks well in his court case.
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Posted by SteeleRedux, Sunday, 19 September 2021 4:12:33 PM
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Dear Steele,
I wish him well. Hopefully the finances he has will cover the expenses involved. He's a brave young man. Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 19 September 2021 4:25:13 PM
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Dear Paul1405,
It seems the pressure on Morrison has gotten too great, he finally has forced Porter to resign from the ministry over the money from the 'anonymous donor'. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-19/christian-porter-resigns-as-minister-over-conflict-of-interest/100474754 Time will tell how long that will last. Sports rorts only saw Bridget McKenzie out for less than a year. Posted by SteeleRedux, Sunday, 19 September 2021 8:11:13 PM
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SR,
Due to the First Amendment guaranteeing the right to free speech, defamation is more difficult in the US than in the rest of the world, but is still possible where statements are made with reckless disregard of the truth for example Jordan Skanks has not one iota of evidence as to the claim of corruption. Note also that in the US Folau could not be persecuted and 18c would be scrapped. Be careful what you wish for. Posted by shadowminister, Monday, 20 September 2021 9:33:21 AM
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Shadowminister,
I remember this from you: "The defamation trial will force the ABC to produce everything it has got, and if on the balance of probability CP wins will you admit that the ABC got it wrong?" Well what are the chances you will balls this up as well? Posted by SteeleRedux, Monday, 20 September 2021 10:16:23 AM
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SR.
Firstly as there was no trial, I was not incorrect. Secondly, the ABC made an apology clearly stating that they never intended to imply guilt on CP and paid for the mediation because they knew that they would lose the case. Skanks has gone far further than the ABC in directly accusing JB of corruption. Even in his submissions to the court, he has not provided a shred of proof to his "truth" defence. I would be happy to bet that JS will not win this case. Posted by shadowminister, Monday, 20 September 2021 11:55:20 AM
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It sure does and it is perhaps why I find him so refreshing.
Dear Paul1405,
Yes it was quite astonishing and deeply concerning. Not having to declare a donation of that size to a politician really beggars belief.
But it does reinforce the point that defamation case are the playground of the rich or the well connected.