Is Mise just because a few French words have weaseled their way into our language is no reason to but subs, or anything else from them.

The last people you would want to be aligned with, or need to supply parts for your subs, [or cars] is the french.

American traitors were killing our dear English relatives at Valley Forge. Our English relatives were killing our American friends at the Battle of Brandywine. So ttbn what's your point, get over it.

Plantagenet,
Add to ttbn’ s list, Nancy Wake, aka ‘The White Mouse’ who with loyal French men and women was killing Germans in Occupied Franc, and with the aid of the French was supplying vital intelligence to Britain.
Anything derogatory to say about Braille and Pasteur?

Ex-RAN man, Tom Lewis, is all for nuclear submarines, but we should have had them by now. He deplores the defence acquisition system. "Government after government wants to build too many defence platforms here." This should be reserved for minor weapons systems such as patrol boats. "Major builds run late and over-budget", and we "insist on fiddling with the design". We need to simply copy what is already in the water.

Buying new boats for immediate use might not be possible, but apparently the US has vessels in storage, six of which we should "buy or lease now". Not in a decade or even five years. We could have several nuclear boats operating out of Perth within a year, according to Lewis.

Stop and ask the question, why do we need nuclear subs?

Has been,
I’ll second that on cars; all the French cars that I’ve had experience with were very good.
Mostly Renault and I possibly owe my life to the superb handling of a Renault12 when a number of cars went awry on the Sydney Newcastle Expressway and I was able to steer my way through the sudden chaos.