The State of Vermont in USA is a standout for getting it population vaccinated and the benefits are abundantly clear.

Not only that but they have maintained a very good set of statistics which are being updated weekly. The latest can be found here:

http://dfr.vermont.gov/sites/finreg/files/doc_library/dfr-covid19-modeling-090821.pdf

Lower death rates, lower infection rates and lower hospitalisations.

Of course they are well above the vaccination rates we have in this country but they certainly show a pathway out of the Covid noose.

Then there is Israel SR.

Over 80% fully vaccinated, now many with a third dose.

They currently have the highest daily infection rate they've experienced since the start of the pandemic, currently higher than many hell holes.
Over 60% if those infected are fully, repeat FULLY vaccinated.

Wouldn't it be nice if these Bast**ds would give us some factual information, rather than propaganda pushing vaccination.

These new Ivemectin substitutes, Pfivermectin & now others have a per dose cost of over $2000, compared to $0.05 for the real unpatentable stuff.

Just how much smoke does it take for some to realise, there is fire producing that smoke.

Unfortunately our lot can't see the smoke, & are betting the farm on vaccination, which has failed in most places. Yet another bad choice piled on all the other dreadful choices we have had so far.

Dear Hasbeen,

Struth mate, even a blind Freddie would look at 80% vaccinated but msking up only 60 of infections and not say there is an appreciable preventative element.

"When US researchers dug into the Israeli data and broke it up according to age groups, they found the vaccine was more than 90 per cent effective at preventing severe disease in people under 50, and more than 85 per cent effective in those over 50.

"When interpreting data, you can't just look at raw numbers," Professor Lewin said.

"In Israel, when you look at the age-adjusted numbers for vaccination, the chance of you being hospitalised if you're over 60 is reduced 40-fold if you're vaccinated compared to if you're unvaccinated."

Yes Canem Malum, we used to apply Mercurochrome to coral cuts when tourists on our outer reef trips cut themselves. Applied with in a few minutes of the cut, it prevented any of the infection so prevalent with coral & oyster cuts. On days when walking on the coral flat was difficult, but just possible, it looked like we had a pack of Dalmatians on board, with all the spotted legs & arms.

Later we had to switch to, Gentian Violet when Mercurochrome was no longer available. I have both in the medicine cabinet, both sourced from the USA, but I will check the local chemist. They had 2 packs of Ivemectin when asked.

SR you tout Vermont and obfuscate Israel figures? Why is there just so much disagreement and protests of dishonesty?
I will tell you, because from day one we have been lied to but like all good lies there is a skein of truth the liars fight you over.
This is all a battle for integrity and they have lost it with me. You can try your usual snide remarks and insults but last time I looked I had the same vote as you and my vote is against the major parties and their lies.
Now summer is here the covid will subside and if we complain enough and vote out the political scum they will not bring it back, hopefully.

Dear JBowyer,

Rubbish.

The figures in Israel and Vermont are not in disagreement at all.

Name a single lie you have been told. On the whole the authorities have been very forthcoming and updated their advice and strategies as the pandemic has progressed. The only serial liar in this whole sorry affair was Trump but now he has gone.

Wake up.