War has broken out between the right wing commercial radio shock jocks, with 2GB’s Ray Hadley having a stoush with former colleague Alan Jones now with Sky, into the mix goes Sky News nightly raver Andrew Bolt. Hadley has attacked the other two for their outrageous comments on the Sydney lockdown, and he has attacked Bolt for his defence of a convicted paedophile. I have no concern with a bunch of right wing ratbags attacking each other, in fact its good to watch.

My question is; Do these right wing "Shockers" as I like to call them, exert too much influence in society over public policy? Are people like Morrison falling over themselves to appear with these "Shockers" to give a please explain, and try and gain their approval for what is government decisions made for the good of all. Who is running the country, the elected politicians, or these unelected know all's like Jones, Hadley and Bolt etc.

http://www.thebigsmoke.com.au/2021/07/15/in-sydneys-shock-jock-war-were-all-casualties/

Paul why are you listening to radio skirmishes when the World is at war. We are in the midst of the Great Reset where all property and wealth will become property of the State. All employment will be employment to the State and you will be tracked and only allowed to move according the rules of the State. Wealth will be distributed by the State world Wide and the model will be the CCP who will control your activities and beliefs and dispose ot unproductive persons of the State. You will be owned by the State. The relese of the Corona virus was the initial move to bring about the great reset which Governments are talking about at the UN but are not bringing it to the people as it means a whole new life change and State control.

What a predictable, monotonous load of crap from someone who exists only to rave on about how good the left is and how bad the right is. Nothing original, he just combs all the ratbag websites for second hand material - a megaphone for the lunatic fringe who, apart from his local Green branch, don't know of his miserable existence.

Dear Paul,

I grew up in Sydney and I can remember (long before
the pandemic hit the world) these shock jocks
of Sydney commercial radio stations, particularly
2GB and 2UE, (and now Sky News), how they had created
their business models, built on outrage - using shock
tactics.

An article in "The Conversation," points out -

"These guys base their political ideology on what they
think will appeal "to an older audience living in what
Jones is pleased to call "Struggle Street." It's not
conservatism as they like to claim but
plain and simple - reactionaryism."

In other words - these guys -

" pander to the marginal electorates, largely found
in Western Sydney where there are enough peoole who
find this ideology attractive and make politicians nervous."

"It's not conservatism as they like to claim but rank
reactionaryism."

That's what gives these jocks political
power.

The article in "The Conversation," tells us that these guys
have become - "a kind of shadow government in NSW." which
helps explain the NSW Premier's responses to COVID-19 thus
far. Her procrastination and prevarications that have
marked her responses to COVID.

The shock jocks certainly yield a great deal of influence.
And will continue to do so - until they age and can't
continue any more - just like John Laws did.
Whatever became of him? Is he still alive?

Foxy, Lawsie did an interview with PM Morrison on 14th July this year. See: http://www.pm.gov.au › media › interview-john-laws-2...BTW I don't endorse any of these "Shock Jocks" or their Electronic Whorehouse masters. FYI.

Dear Josephus,

Mate you are drinking the koolaid by the quart now it seems. Easy up mate, you will do yourself an injury.

Thanks Albie.

I was wondering what happened to Lawsie.

Loved his voice.

I hear what Marxist politicians, the UN and WHO are talking about, including big tech and allies of China - thy are all talking about the New World Order after the Reset. The new normal.

Hi Josephus! I am happy to wish you a long life, so you can see that your predictions are nonsense.

What is the Reset?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcKgE7eIaBI

When China rules the World. 1 and 1/2 hour UTUbe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G1EyvRZmOs

Loved his voice.
Foxy,
So did he !

I remember when Alan Jones was ranting about the NBN and whined that optical fibre technology was out of date because they can now transmit some huge number of copies "The World Book Encyclopedia" in one second "over a laser beam" (which is what fibre is used for - something he obviously didn't know).

It doesn't matter what garbage these idiots spout as long as they sound convincing and there are a lot of weak-minded reactionary drones out there ready to lap it all up. They appeal to the conspiratorial and those who are prone to anger but in the end it's all about selling products.
It's almost like "You have a hole in your life about the size of this flat-screen TV" or "It's not your fault your life turned out this way, when there's always someone else to blame".

Laws is still out there, trying to be relevant and hungry to have his ego constantly stroked and supports Morrison and Gladys in the hope to attract them onto his show but is also prone to many unscientific gaffes.

I sometimes tune in just for a laugh as they try to pass off opinion as fact.

Hi rache,

Remember those turds and the "cash for comment" scandal.

"In 1999, reporters Richard Ackland, Deborah Richards and Anne Connolly from ABC's Media Watch programme revealed that 2UE talk back hosts John Laws and Alan Jones had been paid to give favourable comment to companies including Qantas, Optus, Foxtel, Mirvac and major Australian banks, without disclosing this arrangement to listeners. Prior to giving favourable commentary to a group of banks, Laws had repeatedly criticised them for imposing unjustified fees on customers while cutting back on services."

I certainly remember the "cash for comment" scandal. From memory, Jones was getting about $150 every time he said the word "Optus" and from the way he tends to add specific words to certain brands, I suspect Laws is still working that sort of deal with a couple of companies - for example The Daily Telegraph, "excellent journal that it is".

The interesting thing about those shock-jocks is that when they are invariably sued, the legal defence is usually that they are not journalists but "entertainers" and so what they say should only be taken as opinion.
Even Tucker Carlson's boss in the USA claimed in Court that "no reasonable person" would mistake Tucker's comments as being factual, yet so many do.

There was a book some years ago called "Emperors of the Airwaves" that described each broadcaster's technique and strategy and how fake it really is.

"In the real world, nothing happens at the right time at the right place. It is the job of journalists and historians to correct that." (Mark Twain).

Paul, and the problem with like minded people disagreeing on minor points is what? I guess for greenies such as yourself, TV shows like Q&A, The Conversation or the Channel 10 rubbish with that Ali bloke where every one agrees with everyone else is more palatable to your groupthink mind, it's lefties like yourself (and others of a similar ilk on this forum) that discourage robust debate, get over yourself mate and embrace the discussion instead of trying to shut it down!

Hi Fireballs,

Firstly welcome back to the Forum, after a year or so of absence.

Not sure what your point is about those despised "Greenies" and "Lefties" you refer to. As for me shutting down robust debate, you are free to post whatever you see fit on this Forum, allowing for the constraints of the Moderator. The fact you don't take much of an opportunity to do so is up to you. I do watch Q&A and several other ABC offerings as well, I'm not familiar with this Ali bloke you speak of, I'm not up with him at all.

As for you giving me advice on anything, stick it up your arse.

Thanks FireballXL5 for your comments.

Looks like Paul1405 has the similar comments as our famous a*s*kisser Loudmouth. I guess that's where his focus lies. It's ok for some

Fireball,

Potty Paul doesn't want to stifle debate, as you believe; he wants to CANCEL you, me, CM and anyone who isn't an extreme Leftist like he is. He and his sidekicks, Foxy and Steelhead, would be much happier to see OLO as a Marxist echo chamber.

Dear Canem Malum,

So let me get this right. Over on another thread you were saying to me: "Steele Redux- Do you know what "active listening" is? You don't have to agree with mhaze but I think it's at least important to try to understand why he sees things the way he does- but that's just me."

But here on this one you are using phrases like: "similar comments as our famous a*s*kisser Loudmouth".

Leaving aside the fact that Loudmouth has passed away I just want to let you know you really do need to park the sanctimonious crap. Your behaviour is far lower than anything I have stooped to so keep any thoughts of pulling up others to yourself.

Flog.

Dear FireballXL5,

Mate what a snowflake you are. I have read what Paul1405 has written and for the life of me I can't see where he was trying to "discourage robust debate" or "shut it down".

If you are that triggered that you somehow see his post as an attack on your free speech then cry me a river.

Hi CM & Misop,

Thanks for all that attention. Sorry for getting up your noses. Good fun, but :)

Any time that either of you is in Adelaide, perhaps we can arrange a time for you to come around and kiss my hairy arse.

Joe
Posted by loudmouth2, Monday, 28 December 2020 10:37:23 AM

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=21238#374855

In the latest battle of the shockers and ravers, Hadley has unloaded on Jones. After Jones questioned what caused the death of a 27 year old man in Sydney last week (he died from Covid). Without evidence Jones tried to imply the man died from something more "sinister" than Covid, Hadley retaliated with a ear full for Jones.

I can watch and stomach the night time ravers on Sky, Andrew Bolt and co, they are at least entertaining, but Jones, the mere sight of this pompous overblown bag of puss on the telly, makes me sick. I fear Jones is going to explode and cover the screen with gangrenous disgusting muck!. Not a nice thought when one is having their night time bowl of Coco Pops!

I know many who are conservative, but amongst the same are a noisy minority fed by our media on quite grotty or junk science 'talking points'.

However, when one listens to their list of gripes, complaints, demands for solutions etc. then ask, 'what are you actually for as a conservative'? Generally silence.

Pauliar,

Storm in a teacup. Their ratings still go up.

There is science and there is scientism. The so called conservatives believe perhaps that- the Covid response has undermined free speech, has been mismanaged by (certain) authorities, has manufactured a crackdown on dissenting opinion, has gone on much longer than necessary because of mismanagement, has engaged in a strategy which has undermined business and the structure including the broad economic structure of the community, (certain) authorities are complicit in the spread of Covid.

Plainly the community is dependent on the economic structure and this has seen cracks due to Covid and the reaction by authorities.

In the US (and Australia) conflict between Democrat and Republican authorities have resulted in Covid spreading unnecessarily. Plainly in order to have an orderly response to the spread Health Departments, Border Control, Federal and State governments need probably need a higher level of cooperation.

Perhaps growth policies and immigration have perhaps allowed Covid to spread more easily than otherwise- in the US the Democrats appear to have a reputation of being soft on illegal immigrants.

The conservatives appear to have placed the blame for the mismanagement at the feet of certain authorities and are acting accordingly.

Of course everyone on both sides always sees things in their own way- as is their right in this so called democracy.

In general it's ok for people and even politicians to be biased in their views- seems to be based on the principle that individuals are the best ones to ask if something is in their interest- perhaps not for bureaucrats.

shonkyminister,

As a well known forum devotee of these scumbags of the airwaves, who are you supporting? Your beloved folk hero 'Beat Up' Bolt or 'That Boy' Jones? They both have appealing features you admire.

[Deleted. Defamatory.]

shadowminister, you should retract your above post at it identifies a known person as a paedophile. And ask the moderator to remove your post, Otherwise a link to YOU will be sent to the below email address. With a note David read this it claims you are paedophile. Your call.

david.shoebridge@parliament.nsw.gov.au

Pauliar,

Your inability in English rears its head again. I have identified the green paedophiles that I have identified before and David Shoebridge as scumbags. The comma separates them.

Idiot.

Pauliar,

I forgot to mention the scumbag green councillor on charges for theft and assault.

SM,

The comment is not directed at me, I will take the action as I said, and David Shoebridge, if he feels it necessary can take what steps he sees fit. You put a lot of faith in a comma. Action taken.

Pauliar,

Good luck with that.