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Knife attacks. What can be done?
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Well CJ while I search it out amuse yourself by telling us your answers to the questions that I posed, no references are required.
Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 1 September 2007 12:00:03 AM
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James
Tell that to John Howard and the Premiers of this country because they are doing JUST that to restore Law and order in the NT QLD and Most other states. Its not hurting the Army or the countries defence but it is helping restore law and order so its safe to walk on the streets. AS a matter of fact you might be surprised how much local knowledge they would gain that might be of great assistance. Same Difference Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Saturday, 1 September 2007 12:30:22 AM
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CJ.
Here is part of the text of a Greens' speech in the NSW Upper House. (quote) The Greens oppose the Home Invasion (Occupants Protection) Bill for the same reasons as the Attorney General set out in his speech on the second reading of the Hon. J. S. Tingle’s bill, which the Government opposed, on 8 May 1997. He raised some very pertinent points which are still relevant to this amended bill. On that occasion he said: The Government has taken the view that there are aspects of the bill which are unnecessary and, I must say with great respect, dangerous, and that therefore the bill ought to be opposed. ... {edit for word limit]...The Greens are most concerned about how the bill will impact upon intruders who perhaps steal for social or medical reasons. Many drug addicts pay for their drug habits by stealing from dwelling houses. The Greens consider drug addiction to be a social and health issue. Additionally, some people with insufficient money due to lower socioeconomic circumstances may steal from dwellings so that they can survive. While the Greens do not condone this sort of conduct in any way, we are concerned that these types of people may be violently attacked, perhaps even killed, whilst carrying out a robbery. Yet this legislation will legalise brutal attacks on such individuals. The Greens are concerned that the requirements of proportionality would be significantly weakened through this legislation. The Greens do not agree with people taking the law into their own hands. We prefer intruders to be prosecuted through the court system (un-quote) Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 1 September 2007 7:48:58 AM
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Thanks Is Mise, but what does any of that have to do with knife attacks? There is no suggestion in the article with which you began this thread that knives are particularly associated with home invasions - in fact, 'home invasions' aren't mentioned at all in the article.
Is Mise wrote "Have the Greens not said that resistance without knowing the real intentions of the assailant is wrong? Have they and others not said that the assailant may have come from an abusve background and have a drug problem and that they therefore should not be resisted with sufficient force to make sure that they cannot hurt the victim?" As I put to you, they didn't say that at all. Rather, in the context of a debate about 'home invasion' legislation, they suggested that some perpetrators of of this type of crime may do so because of drug/health problems. Nothing at all about knife attacks and not resisting them. As I implied, your gratuitous swipe at the Greens was not based on fact, rather your own inference that their statements in parliament about another issue entirely would mean that they would adopt the exaggerated attitude you've invented for them with respect to knife attacks as described in the article. You haven't provided evidence that the Greens have made the claims that you attribute to them - rather, you've provided evidence of your own, typically disingenuous inference. This thread, including your silly questions, is not worthy of serious consideration. Face it, Is Mise - you're a paranoid gun nut who just wants to rabble rouse and slander those who don't share your violent fantasies. Posted by CJ Morgan, Saturday, 1 September 2007 9:04:23 AM
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I agree with C J Morgan,
This thread is running all over the place! keep to the thread and stop getting up-close and personal. Posted by SPANKY, Saturday, 1 September 2007 6:29:34 PM
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Well, CJ, I do see a connection .
Knives are used in home invasions and the Greens do think that the victim should be the one on whom the decision as to wheather the assailant has fallen on hard times should be taken into account. Do I Greens bash? Of course I do. They need to be 'bashed', as an illustration of their utter unfitness to represent even the outer fringes of society let me offer Ian Cohen's outburst against 'Vegemite' (Q)Wacko Greens MLC Ian Cohen [edit] called for Vegemite to be taken off the shelves because it might contain Genetically Modified (GM) ingredients. According to the CSIRO "There has not so far been a single report of any GM food causing adverse health effects in humans"^. Despite this, the Greens ran a scare campaign against Vegemite without any scientific basis. Observe Ian Cohen's Green Hysterics: "Parents spread it on their children's sandwiches everyday. The very wellbeing of Australia's children may be at stake," he said. (un-Q) http://www.greenswatch.com/wacky_greens.aspx Link to Greens Watch, worth a laugh or whatever. Just one more point, CJ, look up 'ad hominem', there's a good chap. Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 1 September 2007 6:31:04 PM
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