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Celebrating the End of Slavery

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Paul1405,
Instead of wasting OLO space with silly little Nursery jokes, how about offering some ideas about getting this Nation to become more cohesive & responsible to itself ?
What would you suggest should be done about people who always expect others to put up an effort. You're one of them so, what is it & what should the rest of us do to make you pull some of your weight some of the time ?
Posted by individual, Monday, 21 June 2021 8:03:38 AM
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Individual,

Paul has been trying to motivate people on this forum
for ages.
But you can only do so much to motivate some people as
you well know. How about your joining in? You seem to
have some strong views on the subject. Lead by example.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 21 June 2021 8:16:04 AM
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Foxy wrote:"According to the Chicago Reporter..."

And then proceeds to NOT provide the link. Whenever Foxy decides to NOT provide a link the skeptic hairs on my neck stand up. She's rather fond of hiding data that doesn't suit the 'cause'.

So no evidence that what she says has any validity other than that someone told her what she wanted to hear. Hilariously silly old Paul calls this a " sourced contradiction". Well if you want it to be true just believe it, eh?

This is how proper research is done Foxy.... http://datacenter.kidscount.org/data/tables/107-children-in-single-parent-families-by-race#detailed/1/any/false/1729,37,871,870,573,869,36,868,867,133/10,11,9,12,1,185,13/432,431

Note: the data is based on "U.S. Census Bureau, Census 2000 Supplementary Survey, 2001 Supplementary Survey, 2002 through 2019 American Community Survey".

You could also download table A3 from here... http://www.census.gov/data/tables/2019/demo/families/cps-2019.html
although that is an excel table and is probably above your pay-grade.

Still its nice to see that you and Paul continuing to fall for half-truths and outright falsifications. I feel there'd be a disturbance in the Force if we ever found you or he actually dispassionately looking for the truth.
Posted by mhaze, Monday, 21 June 2021 8:32:15 AM
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mhaze,

Thank You for being so entertaining but in all
fairness - I'll give you a bit of advice.
There's a search engine called Google - that
you can access to fact check someone's claims.
All you had to do is put in "Chicago Reporter -
black fathers," and you would have found the
link. I've been accused of using too many links
to back up my claims - so this time I naturally
assumed that you had the intelligence to search
the information for yourself.

Ah well, as you consistently keep telling me -
I'm always wrong. (lol) and it seems that I certainly
am regarding over-estimating you.

Here - is the link:

http://www.chicagoreporter.com/breaking-myths-about-black-fatherhood-this-fathers-day/
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 21 June 2021 10:07:45 AM
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Paul has been trying to motivate people on this forum
for ages.
Foxy,
That remark borders on sick joke !
Posted by individual, Monday, 21 June 2021 10:25:29 AM
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Actually Foxy, I had already found your article. But I wanted you to link it. The last time I went and found an article you claimed to prove your point, you denied I had the right article after I pointed out its errors. Once bitten....

I can't help but notice you decided to ignore the data I linked. Well it tells a truth you'd prefer wasn't true, so ignoring it is the standard Foxy process.

As to the article you link, it uses highly suspect data from a mere survey where absent fathers are asked to rate their own performance. Little wonder that they come out looking better than reality.

But even then the partisan article you use, hides the facts from that survey. Here's Huffpost using the same data....

"Fatherlessness is still a bigger problem statistically in the black community than it is among other racial groups. Some kids who don’t live with their dads really are fatherless. And when I examined Census reports about black children, I found that slightly more than half don’t have the same legal residence as their fathers."

I know that you don't want that to be true and will therefore pretend it isn't. You're not alone. Indeed this truth about the black family has been ignored for 4 decades which is why the situation for black kids has become so bad. These problems can't be fixed if the most basic data about it is ignored because it is unpleasant.

But then fixing the problem isn't the aim, is it? Proving how virtuous you are by saying you want to fix it is the aim, n'est pas?
Posted by mhaze, Monday, 21 June 2021 11:01:06 AM
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