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Lets Talk About Racism. - what it is and how to spot it.
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Posted by plantagenet, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 9:33:58 PM
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Hi Pete,
An Advisory body of First Nations' traditional owners to advise Parliament on policy affecting Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples would offer a way to include Indigenous Australians cultural authority in matters of law that affect them and constitutionally guarantee them a say in their own affairs. The Advisory Body would sit separately to Parliament and its advice would not be binding. A Commission would ensure the agreement making between the Government and Indigenous people would be by mutual agreement on both sides. I really don't see a problem with this. Neither does Professor of Constitutional law at the University of Sydney, Anne Twomey as mentioned earlier. If you disagree with this - fair enough Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 9:56:14 PM
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No one has answered my question; What is an aborigine ?
WHOOPS ! Sorry I mean Indigenous ! I got pulled up the other day for saying aborigine, gauwd what a state we are in. Will the proposed referendum have a sunset clause ? I can see a time when a group of white people say, because they have kept family records, that they are indigenous and they will have formed a group using their special access to influence government. Posted by Bazz, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 10:00:50 PM
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"I got pulled up the other day for saying aborigine," Gawd, Bazz was that by a brother at the monthly meeting of your National Action Cell?
"Unterscharfuhrer you can not say ABORIGINE, the correct word is COON!" Bazz, be careful what you say at party meetings, they will start questioning your loyalty. Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 6:42:59 AM
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Dear Bazz,
The federal government departments adopt the following 3 part definition: 1) An Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander is a person of Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander descent. 2) Who identifies as an Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander. 3) And who is accepted as such by the community in which her ( or she) lives. This is their working definition for determining eligibility to certain services and benefits and continues to be applied administratively on a case by case basis. Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 8:14:22 AM
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Dear Bazz, Here is a link that may be of interest: http://www.sbs.com.au/topics/voices/culture/article/2016/12/07/heres-truth-about-free-ride-some-australians-think-indigenous-people-get Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 8:25:09 AM
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OK, ATSIC then NIC - it just shows how, in practice, "First Nations" outfits fall short of "Heart" felt lofty ambitions.
A Constitutionally imprimated "Ulura Statement From the Heart" leading to:
- a 3rd First Nations House of Parliament
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- a Constitutionally made PERMANENT Authority (that therefore cannot be abolished, even by the High Court?
OR
- a "First Nations" cleared clause in every or most pieces of legislation going through Parliament
would be thoroughly RACIST as it would privilege the "First Nations" RACE specifically.
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Anyway. No major Party (when in power) will advocate and schedule a Racist Constitutional Referendum.
This is because Australians, since the the end of the White Australia Policy don't like sweeping RACE based laws.
Even Labor realises that if it actually got voted in (late 2021 Election or 2022) pushing an "Uluru" Referendum would be enough to rapidly lose Labor power.