ttbn,
What happened was NZ demonstrated an elimination strategy could work, and Australia followed suit.
It's a pity other countries (apart from a few Pacific islands) didn't do likewise.

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Armchair,
>So you're saying that if I make bad choices and screw my life up with crime and prison time,
Not only if you do that, but also if you end up homeless for any other reason.

>If you want to house them as part of an effort to prevent them committing more
>crime, then start and proper 'Inmates Housing Department'
So now you want to give prisoners special treatment when it comes to housing? Struth, you've changed your tune pretty quickly - such spectacular backflips are rarely seen outside of state governments!

> But don't take the houses away from the regular law abiding citizens.
Why must you view things as one group competing against another? The real solution isn't to exclude people, but to expand the supply.

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o sunng wu,
>However, most of 'em have a wide network of like-minded associates and so-called 'friends' who can
>provide them with the wherewithal while they're in the midst of planning their next criminal enterprise
That's precisely why this is so important - they shouldn't feel they have to rely on that network.

Hi Aiden,
>So you're saying that if I make bad choices and screw my life up with crime and prison time,
Not only if you do that, but also if you end up homeless for any other reason.

So you're saying that if I'm homeless for any reason government housing should be provided for me?
- Well why not just have the government give everyone a house to begin with then?

"So now you want to give prisoners special treatment when it comes to housing? Struth, you've changed your tune pretty quickly - such spectacular backflips are rarely seen outside of state governments!"

No this is more about accounting, and putting the right expenses in the right column.
- If housing is a part of your 'rehabilitation' so they won't commit more crimes, then put that expense in the 'crime and prison expenses column', at least we can be honest about what the money's purpose is.

If it's instead about about the government providing every single homeless person a home, and that some benefit from this policy when others don't;

If it's just a wealth redistribution from the people who do pay tax to the people who make poor choices for themselves, then why not just be fair with that spending mentality and give EVERYONE a house to begin with?

You want to get pregnant when you can't even take care of yourself?
- Sure we'll give you a house.
You want to not care about your own life or future and be homeless or couch-surf at your mates place with a drug addiction;
- Sure we'll give you a house
You want to commit crimes and go to jail
- Sure well give you a house.

You want to go out and get a job do the right thing
- Sorry we can't help you, you'll have to get a private rental.

Somethings not right there.

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"Why must you view things as one group competing against another? The real solution isn't to exclude people, but to expand the supply."

Well why not create a foolproof plan that expands supply?
- I gave you all one years ago.

Start with 'Base Level Socialist Jobs System'
'The job you have when you don't have a job'
'Double Dole for full time work'
'Use MyGov app to organise work shifts'
Why pay someone $250 to do nothing, when you could pay them $500 and have a full time worker instead?

'Build national project, HSR + Road, Internet, water, Electricity hub connecting all capital cities direct.'
'Create digital resume', that shows yours accredited skills.
Use a blockchain if you have to, so that the resume can't lie about your skills and experience'
'Creates work for everyone that wants it'
Make training app related as much as possible'
- With the bulk of training money, used for testing costs for new skills'

- Why because the only way to make the country more competitive is to either reduce wage costs, or reduce electricity and transport costs'
- So we need cheaper transport and energy costs.

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Once you build this new network of road and rail routes and inland routes, then you can uilise it with BUILDING HUGE FACTORIES in every state where relocatable homes are assembled and can come strait off a production line in a week and delivered anywhere in 48 hours, and connect it up with solar farms adjoining the road rail network, and pumping power into a national grid.
- You could find a way to utilise the solar panels that are thrown away with 90+% effeciency still to go, every time some home owner upgrades their systems.

No, instead we've got people saying they want to purge the home owners solar? Why not use that power and turn on bitcoin miners instead if you're just going to waste it, you know the government could gain a valuble asset instead of nothing?

If they'd have listened to me, you'd had you're quarantine building facilities more or less ready to go a year ago, you wouldn't have the problem with returned travellers (one I said stop them coming) secondly you'd have people tested clear before they come to the mainland.

Or why didn't the use the TV.
'Renovation Rescue Quarantine Style', get all the tradies, Bunnings, Home Hardware and the rest of them, hold a bloody telethon, use Dunk Island owned by QLD government sitting in ruins, with an airstrip.
Nope, no forward thinking to be seen anywhere.

The countries become completely hopeless.