Western society has had several thousands of years of discipline of property and personal ownership as taught in culture. Aboriginal culture has had very little understanding of the culture of boundary, to them there is no boundary and no ownership so it is obvious they are going to conflict with the Christian West that bases law on the principles of the 10 commandments, i.e. "Thous shall not steal" Thou shall not covet": to them if it is available it is theirs to use.

They do not see the discipline to save for the future, you only use what you need and is available today. It might belong to someone else but I can use it. They by nature are tribal wanderers and gatherers. Only those that have been Westernized and live out of the tribe make it in a modern world, but we have the cross race hangers on wanting to go back to tribal culture and with property boundaries - your on stolen land. Westminster laws do not apply to us, and the Police are the administrators of Westminster laws.

how Australia was/is bending over its arse to make things better for the Aborigines?
Paul1405,
Show us when & where it wasn't so ! If the offers weren't taken up or the advice not heeded then who's fault is that ?
I have lived most of my life in indigenous communities & worked with people who have spent even more time & more communities. Besides having personal experience plus having having been told of others;' experiences, let me assure you that the situation is very much not as YOU imagine !

your on stolen land.
Josephus,
Can't argue with that ! What I can argue about is, all the on-going compensation that has gone their way thus far is not enough ?
It's amazing how these cultural values do not cover the good will that has been extended, often at great all-round cost as whatever is given has not yet been enough.
What would be enough ? All non-indigenous leave & leave the indigenous to the mercy of others who would definitely not put in place any of the compensation & welfare that is in place now.
I have met may indigenous who said that the estranged urban pretend-indigenous are not at all concerned about their cousins in the Bush, the Aborigines !

Indy,

You claim to have "lived" in indigenous communities, saying I imagine, well I do have a little experience with Aboriginal people in a professional capacity, in a large urban environment, but that's neither here nor there. Like you, I and everyone else cannot fully understand the complexities of the problems faced by our indigenous brothers and sisters, as they like us are not a homogeneous group suffering the same set of homogeneous problems. Aboriginal people and their problems are as diverse as the rest of the community. In general terms "disadvantaged" is what is often referred to as the problem, well it is, but it takes different forms for different people, and needs different solutions.

I'm still laughing at your "150 year" quip, which showed your ignorance, but I suspect it was motivated by your racial bias and prejudice, something you clearly show with your comments. BTW in what general area did YOU get all that indigenous expertise? Living up a tree in North Queensland.

Paul1405,
While you're laughing why not cough up some evidence that Australia as a nation hasn't bent ar$e over backwards to help the indigenous ! I suppose because you're one of the pretend-indigenous crowd in suburbia, you're not exposed what's really happening in far northern communities.
You really should check if the indigenous person you're talking to is in fact indigenous !
I know people who were anything but indigenous 30 years ago but now are anything but non-indigenous !

Indy,

A small example of the systemic racism that existed in Australia, well into the 20th century. Not 150 years ago, but in YOUR lifetime. An ex-prison officer, a man now in his nineties, once said to me he liked nothing better than to find an aboriginal (not his word) hanging in the cell first thing in the morning.

'In February 1965 Charles Perkins led a group of university students on a bus trip around rural NSW to challenge racism wherever they saw it. They visited a number of towns, including Walgett, where Aboriginal ex-servicemen were denied membership to the local RSL, and Moree, where Aboriginal people were banned from swimming in the local pool. Their protests gained national media attention and Perkins was thrust into the spotlight, becoming a towering figure for the Indigenous community."

Where you came from I suspect black people were treated rather badly.