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Aboriginal Deaths In Custody, 30 Years On

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born into an environment where through no fault of their own the natural progression leads to "breaking the white mans law" and then the only outcome which society accepts is imprisonment.
Paul1405,
That is excuse rhetoric not fact !
Posted by individual, Friday, 16 April 2021 7:48:12 AM
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The facts are that over 400 deaths and not one person
convicted. It is easy to see a parallel with the outcry
following the death of George Floyd in the US yet
there are many here who still today describe Australia
as the "lucky country," and deny what could be causing
problems due to a lack of understanding.

A lack of education and a failure to connect the "dots"
shows we need more information, interpretation, and the
revelation of the truths.

Dr Sandy O'Sullivan, a Wiradjuri person and an Associate
Professor in the School of Creative Industries at the
University of the Sunshine Coast gives strong emphasis
on the role that institutions like the Australian
Museum can play in educating the public. She says that
museums can reveal and speak for those who've been
kept voiceless by educating the public. After all our
governments and our systems of inequality are supported or
challenged by us as "individual players.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 16 April 2021 8:27:18 AM
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The royal Commission found that indigenous people in prison were less likely to die in custody than non indigenous. That remains the case today.
Posted by mhaze, Friday, 16 April 2021 10:28:21 AM
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It is criminal behavior by the individual that leads to black, or any other death in custody. No crime, no custody, no deaths.

The responsibility falls in two areas. First the aboriginal who commits crime, & secondly the magistrates who are far too soft on juvenile criminal behavior. We through our magistrates are training juveniles to behave badly, by showing them that they will get only a minor slap on the wrist for breaking the law.

Too much softly softly lack of punishment for minor law breaking leads to increasingly serious law breaking. Prison as a last resort for aboriginals is exactly the thing that is teaching the kids that they can do what ever they like & get away with it. This is also the case to an only lightly lessor extent with other kids.

The answer is to come down like a tom of bricks on the first sine of illegal, rather than just naughty behavior. Hell we have even made it illegal for parents to use a bit of tough love, & a strap to discipline their own kids.

Proper appropriate punishment, applied early is the answer to black deaths in custody, & the increasing number of very young joy riding in cars, & other such behavior.

The bleeding heart softly softly approach is a proven failure & needs to be stamped out for the good of the kids as much as society.

Incidentally I saw some figures showing that white deaths in custody as a percentage of inmastes exceeds black deaths.
Posted by Hasbeen, Friday, 16 April 2021 10:39:35 AM
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ttn: Yawn. Staying out of jail in the first place is the only recommendation that needs to be taken up or acted on.

JB: Yawn. Staying out of jail in the first place is the only recommendation that needs to be taken up or acted on.

All that needs to be said.
Posted by Jayb, Friday, 16 April 2021 11:52:37 AM
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Thanks Foxy,

"A lack of education and a failure to connect the "dots" shows we need more information, interpretation, and the revelation of the truths."

I agree with what you say. My wife spent a lot of time dealing with the problems of Maori youth back in New Zealand. The same social and economic conditions exist with those guys, as it does in Australia for many Aboriginal people, with the same outcomes. One look at the 'Closing the Gap' figures, and the lack of success, shows that a major problem does exist. Until disadvantage is overcome things wont change. Having government impose a solution, no matter how well intentioned will also fail. Those advocating more of the same big stick approach are deluding themselves, it wont fix the problem. The problems and therefore the solution is better delt with by Aboriginal people themselves with the support of government and the broader community.
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 16 April 2021 11:56:38 AM
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