A bill to ban kangaroo products and curb the trade in kangaroo skins used by companies such as Nike and Adidas has been introduced into the US Congress with support from both parties. American animal rights groups argue the way kangaroos and their joeys are killed is inhumane. There are claims that the Australian National Code of Practice for the Humane Shooting of Kangaroos and Wallabies for Commercial Purposes is being ignored by weekend and amateur cowboys. There's no competency test for non-commercial shooters, who are also allowed to use shotguns, which raises further questions of inhumane treatment of Australia's iconic native animals. According to commercial hunter Glenn Cole; "But there's other people out there that won't shoot the animal in the head. And they leave the animal to suffer. I've seen evidence of that over the years." Unfortunately this is more evidence that Australia's lax gun laws need to be strengthened, and guns taken out of the hands of amateurs and so called recreational shooters.

Paul,

Really, you do need help.

How do these amateur shooters sell the product?

Just a little evidence, please.

Good old Yanks. They shoot everything including people. But they get all weepy over an animal that Australia is overrun by.

Hi Paul,

The following link is interesting:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-08/us-ban-commercial-shooting-kangaroo-leather-football-boots/100050994

Issy, no one said the amateur cowboys were selling hides to Nike etc. No, these cowboys are too busy causing a million animals a year to suffer inhumane deaths. Many of these butchers are counted in your 200,000 members of the cashed up SSAA. They help finance your anti gun control political party The Shooters and Hooters.

I am all for sustainable management of kangaroos by professional shooters, who like Glen Cole can humanely cull the population where numbers are excessive, and work to supply a viable local and export market. You may wish to tell me you support drunken yobbos running around the bush pretending to be Rambo indescribably blasting away at as many of our fury friends as possible, but I can't agree if that's your take on this. With the recent involvement of amateur shooters in child murders, and now the inhumane killing of millions of our wildlife, I think its time to bite the bullet and disarm all those who do not have a valid professional reason to own and use firearms, that's all of the recreational and so called sports shooting mob. Is that your mob Issy!

Thanks Foxy for the link, I read the article before raising the topic.

Paul,

Just one little bit of evidence would help, but here you go again, accusing the law abiding.

I'm sure there is a psychological name for your apparent problem,
perhaps it's a Greens' thing as they have a record of attacking the lawful acting citizens and ignoring the criminals.

Did you make up the Coroner quotes?

And how about a reference or two to back up your assertions about the SSAA and the NRA, or are we to take them as just plain old lies?

Hi Issy, I have often pondered what form of psychological madness would possess an otherwise ordinary law abiding citizen to take up a gun and then become a crazed killer of our fury little friends. Do you have an answer for me?

Now on a more serious note, can't you see that the actions of a number of amateur cowboys, so called recreational shooters, is jeopardising what should be a legitimate and sustainable industry. I watched the interview with Glen Cole on the ABC, Glen's no Greenie, he's a professional roo shooter supplying the trade. He is concerned for both the animals welfare, and his livelihood which is being jeopardised by a band of rank amateurs who are not part of the industry. The problem has got so serious it has extended to the US Congress.

Issy I'm not pissing in your pocket, but I actually like you and our little forum stoushes from time to time over guns, makes for interesting entertainment. You come across as a very responsible person with guns. I don't care what goes on behind closed doors down at the target range, as long as robust laws keeps it there and it doesn't spill out into the general community like it has in the USA. Unfortunately when it comes to so called recreational shooting some of your brethren are not so responsible in their actions and the results are clear. Simply put, do you think there are too many weekend cowboys with guns, and if so, what can be done to deal with the problem?

Paul,

What problem?

Evidence please.

Paul you show your utter foolishness with this rubbish.

First a shot gun is utterly useless against kangaroos. They do not have the range when used with solid ammunition & can inflict nothing stronger than pin pricks at the range one can get to with roos.

Then you try to give us some facts, & use the type of rubbish we all know is all that is produced by your ABC when it comes to anything but urban matters.

Must do better on your report card.

Continued.

Incidentally, just a couple of the pin holes shotgun pellet hits would inflect on a roo skin would render it worthless to the trade.

Here's one ABC report, good for laughs at the rank ignorance of some who are quoted.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-08/us-ban-commercial-shooting-kangaroo-leather-football-boots/100050994

If there is widespread illegal shooting of 'roos why are there not a long list of prosecutions and confiscation of firearms?

More 'roos are killed around here by collision with vehicles , with consequent endangering of human life, than are shot (legally or illegally).
Where are the protests over road kill?

Hassy,

Thankyou Gunga Din for your worthless piece of input.

Issy,

I do understand you have to toe the line as dictated by the NRA, your mob the SSAA being so beholding to that crack pot American organisation. Whenever the nasties of guns are highlighted you are instructed to claim "Nothing to see here" or "There's no problem here" and "Its all good here". Be it the barbaric slaughter of kangaroos or the murder of children, your stock in trade answer is always to deny any problem exists.

Paul,

Just give us a link between the SSAA and the NRA, you know, evidence.

You lot should be very thankful that the SSAA dose not get involved in politics even though many gun owners wish that they would.

"You lot should be very thankful that the SSAA dose not get involved in politics even though many gun owners wish that they would."

You're darn tootn' Issy, we don't want another like the Jan 6th American Capital Building bloody riot to happen in Aussie, or do we? Blasting sticks in gunnie nutters hands and politics is a lethal combination!

Paul,

Just give us a link between the SSAA and the NRA, you know, evidence.

What's the matter; cat got your typing finger?

Issy, who is Us? Am I dealing with Charlton Heston as well as you.

Evidence; Your good buddy Steve (Gunnie) Dickson went over to the US seeking political cash from the NRA. What do you say to that, is Dickson not a SSAA member?

No reply to my last post, you were stunned, cause its true.

Paul,

"Evidence; Your good buddy Steve (Gunnie) Dickson went over to the US seeking political cash from the NRA. What do you say to that, is Dickson not a SSAA member?"

You call that evidence?

My! you are desperate.

Heaven help the defendant if you're on a jury>