SR I can't really be bothered trying to figure out whether, I got more time to look at the real world, & saw what a prime bunch of ratbags the ABC had gathered unto it's self, or if the ABC got progressively worse, moving from mild propaganda to brain washing in it's approach, but what ever I escaped before it was too late.

Unlike you & a few others on here who were totally captured so now you will believe anything they push, most Ozzies did escape, & the very much "B" grade operators that now inhabit the ABC will not capture any one else. The ABC fades into a very expensive place for such fools to gather.

You do have my pity, but I know it is wasted on such a misguided rusted on disciple.

Hilarious watching the conditioned paranoia of 'conservatives' doing the bidding of Murdoch, LNP and IPA by obsessing about, denigrating and demonising the ABC and claiming it's 'left' but compared to what? (yes it has been boxed in to pursue many irrelevant social issues for more attacks.... that does not make it left).

Not only does this ignore the ABC's broad remit on range providing services and content for non urban Australians, but it's status as one of the most 'trusted' media outlets has become a target for easily disenchanted and/or unhinged conservatives, doing the bidding of power to make for less informed society and electorates; the dumbing down of Australia to follow the US..... does not say much about Australians' independence of though and loyalties....

Further, we are never offered media benchmarks for comparison with the ABC, as the other commercial channels are so bad and also expect state subsidies or support?

Because Australian commercial media is hollowed out, content is mostly political, sport and/or cheap entertainment, while not pretending to have any balance of views, this results in many baby boomers and younger not relying upon (subsidised or privileged) legacy media anymore, especially commercial.

Then another issue of citizenship arises, surely we want a nation of informed society and voters too for analysing policies and 'leadership' through diverse media?

SR,

A little rich accusing Mhaze of quoting unsavoury sites that are mainstream media when you quote blatantly racist propaganda.

Foxy,

The ABC seems to spend a fair amount of time apologising for defaming conservatives generally after a long legal case against them and the waste of taxpayers' money trying to defend themselves.

The apology to JP only occurred 2 years later when the ABC realised that their position was indefensible and after paying legal fees and a settlement to JP they finally apologised.

That they happily publish defamatory information and refuse to remove it when notified and only after defamation suits are raised against them shows what morons are running the show.

The case brought by Porter is likely to fleece them further.

The ABC knockers are at it again. SM regularly promotes the Murdoch gutter press on the forum. He has learnt not to provide links to his laughable paywall site at 'The Daily Telecrap' as he presents the revolting diatribes of 'Beat Up' Bolt and Puse Akerman, nonsense that he believes to be worthwhile news. I cut the Septic Tank's Foxtel outfit off years ago, its Sky News channel was nothing more than a torturous parade of far right Goebbelists. One clown that sticks in my mind that I found particularly revolting was a raving lunatic named Paul Murray. He presented like a cross between an over zealous football commentator after his favourite Boofhead had scored a try, and a late night American TV ad man trying to flog Ginzo Knives in a 30 second grab, is this nutter still around?

No thread would be complete without an incoherent rant from our resident far left nutter Pauliar.

It must burn his balls that Bolt and the other Sky commentators in spite of being on a pay-tv channel get more views than the insipid left whinge drivel such as Q&A.

Shadowminister,

The following link although the article was written
some time ago - it appears is still relevant today
as the "conservative" attacks against the ABC are
still ongoing.

It's very entertaining and asks us to
imagine if every singly one of the main ABC current
affairs shows were hosted not by the "Leftists" who
presently host them according to "conservatives"
but if they were hosted by Andrew Bolt and "fellow
conservatives - Janet Albrechtsen, Gerard Henderson,
Tim Blair, Miranda Devine, Piers Akerman, Tom Switzer,
and Rowan Dean."

You're asked to imagine if ABC current affairs programs
including Radio National's "Science Show" were being
hosted not by competent broadcasters but by these
"conservatives." What would you see? Fox News.
What would they be they saying? Anything?

In this imaginary world we're told no one at the ABC
would "crusade on boat people, same-sex marriage,
and global warming." As the present lot do.
It seems possible that their replacements might have
nothing to talk about at all. They of course would
crusade on "free speech, climate scepticism and free
markets."

An entertaining article.

http://www.themonthly.com.au.issue/2014/march/1393592400/don-watson/conservative-crusade-against-abc#mtr