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I hate to say we told you so.

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individual,

Ask Jen.
Posted by Mr Opinion, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 10:59:22 AM
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I wonder if the likes of Mr O will ever understand that it is impossible to fix a problem that doesn't exist?
Posted by Hasbeen, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 12:43:06 PM
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Hasbeen,
>...it is impossible to fix a problem that doesn't exist
You were recommending doing just that less than three hours before. What's changed?
Posted by Aidan, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 12:57:31 PM
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Here is the original article:

http://spaceweatherarchive.com/2018/09/27/the-chill-of-solar-minimum/

Here is a link from the article debunking what Hasbeen is putting and giving a graphic on the misinformation pathways employed by his cohort.

http://climatefeedback.org/false-claims-coming-ice-age-ecosystem-unreliable-news-sites-blogs-social-media-accounts/

And finally here is the data set.

http://www.spaceweather.com/images2021/28feb21/tci_info.txt

Dear Hasbeen,

The statement was “If current trends continue, it could soon set a Space Age record for cold.” To have done that the temperature in question would have had to drop below that set on Feb 13th 2009 of 2.05e+10W.

However the lowest it eventually got to during 2018 was 3.13e+10W on Dec 17th.

Today's reading is 4.88e+10W

So mate you can rest easy.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 2:26:08 PM
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The earth has been greening for the past 30 years. Since 2000, NASA's vegetation index shows that the planet's vegetation has increased by ~10%. Since 1990 the Sahara has shrunk by 8%.

So whether the planet is cooling or warming, let's hope it continues on it current trajectory in regards to vegetation since that's unambiguously good. According to NASA, 70% of the increase greening is due to CO2 fertilisation although others think its more like 50% with higher temperatures contributing the rest.

As to the question of where we're headed, I'd point out that the HadCRUT data set using HadSST4 data, probably the most respected of all the data sets, shows a declining temperature trend over the last half decade. Most of the data sets also show a decline.

(Yes yes I know, 5 years isn't long enough. It needs to be 30 or 20 or 10 or 50 or whatever is required to prove we're all gunna die.)

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SR wrote:

"To have done that the temperature in question would have had to drop below that set on Feb 13th 2009 of 2.05e+10W."

Its always cute when SR tries to pretend that he knows what he's talking about. The problem is however that he's getting mixed up.
2.05e+10W isn't a temperature. Its a measure of power (hint: the W stands for Watts).

Honestly SR, whenever you see a number you should just run the other way.
Posted by mhaze, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 3:02:06 PM
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Dear mhaze,

Are you really still sooking over being picked to pieces with your Covid numbers? Move on mate.

As to watts and temperature in this case there is no phase change so perfectly acceptable to correlate the two. The scientists involved do it themselves naming different wattage levels cold, warm and hot.

Is this little bit of nit picking the best you are going to contribute here? Once again a piss poor effort old boy.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Wednesday, 3 March 2021 8:26:59 AM
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