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Women a Liberal Party Problem.

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Remember when Bill Shorten was accused of raping a young intern and how we were all told we had to believe the 'victim?

No, me either.

Remember when Luke Foley was accused of sexually assaulting an ABC reporter and how we were told that the ALP had a women problem?

No, me either.

Remember how Orkopoulos was convicted of child sex offences and we were told the ALP had a paedophile problem?

No, me either.

Its a left-wing media beatup which Paul, as usual, falls for.
Let her go to the cops. Let me know when they find evidence of the alleged assault. Let me know when the guy's charged. Let me know when the jury comes back with a guilty verdict.

But don't expect me to go all gooey over a girl who regrets a drunken tryst the morning after.
Posted by mhaze, Monday, 22 February 2021 12:53:53 PM
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ttbn, stick with those irrelevant boring as bat s!it discussions you start about the Governor General or Chinese New Year, they attract other like minded old farts who want to waffle on about the good old days etc, I'm not interested. In that way you can stop playing the forum censor and telling me what threads I can, or cannot start.
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 22 February 2021 1:23:30 PM
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Mr uneducated opinion,

You are a lying turd. At no point did I blame the victim.

Pointing out the obvious fact that Senator Reynolds is not an officer of the law and the maximum punishment she can inflict on the alleged rapist is to fire him and to offer support to the victim.

The choice of reporting the crime to the police at the time is entirely up to the victim who in this case chose not to as did the other two complainants. While I sympathise with each of them, the reality is that without video evidence or a witness the police are unable to make a case. This is not a judgement simply a statement of fact
Posted by shadowminister, Monday, 22 February 2021 1:54:36 PM
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Actually there is no victim until the the complainant is found to have been raped by a court of law. There are now two others claiming to have been raped, the second one 4 years ago. It's a very common story these days; one that is disproved so often; despite help from judges like the one I was reading about the other day who barred a defence lawyer from presenting facts that his client's accuser had a long record of making false claims of or rape. Another thing that encourages complaints is that the complainant is rarely if ever prosecuted for making false accusations.

Greenie,

I have never told you what you can post or not post. You are at liberty to put up as much crap as you wish. Further, disagreeing with you is not censorship. Most people disagree with you. I'm not surprised that you are disinterested in my posts: they are not aimed at people like you.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 22 February 2021 2:28:33 PM
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The usual procedure for an alleged matter of sexual assault, either the victim or a person at the victim's request (including hospital and/or a medical practitioner), report the matter to police, usually with the victim's consent and knowledge. In the case of an aggravated sexual assault, hospital or medical staff can alert police to their strong suspicions of a suspected offence of an aggravated sexual assault. So serious was the offence (called 'aggravated rape') taken in earlier times; it was considered a capital crime, meaning the perpetrator could be sentenced to death in most states of Australia.

In my experience, some women are so traumatised by what occurred; they can often decline to report the crime because they think they may not be believed, or a sense of shame in the mistaken belief, they did in some way, contribute to the crime? And after such a trauma, the victim can hardly be blamed for not thinking clearly. Today most police forces in Oz have a dedicated Sexual Assault Squad, comprising mostly female detectives special trained in the nuances and hazards associated with proving sexual crimes occasioned against women.
Posted by o sung wu, Monday, 22 February 2021 2:51:06 PM
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The attempt by some on this post to shamelessly victim blame and pull the old magicians trick of 'look over here while I do the dirty stuff" (i.e. the Greens harbor pedophiles so everything's hunky doory) is truly appalling. For ttbn to have his head up his arse and not recognise that politics is involved in this incident simply proves to me my long held theory that all right wing ideologues have had every last visage of compassion and human empathy surgically removed at birth.

Of course politics was involved you moron. Brittany Higgins worked in an environment where loyalty to the party comes before all else - be they cyclones, military coups or rape. And especially as an election was about to be announced. Then of course, we have the totally compassionate ttbn (along with all the other butch, macho men out there) who protest - but she was offered help/police investigation but she refused it, and is only now changing her mind. It's a thing called intimidation via threatening your job and the shock and trauma of the assault guys.

You lot seriously make me weep for the future of humanity as you lot display so little of it.
Posted by Aries54, Monday, 22 February 2021 2:54:34 PM
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