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Women a Liberal Party Problem.

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Not familiar with that one shonkyminister, but if you would like to provide a link I'll read the story, and then comment. BTW your failure to provide support for your accusations is well known on the forum, could it be because you simply make things up as you go.

ALTRAV, you do not need to mention names, you said; "Anyone in politics is a lying, filthy, scum of the lowest order" That means every politician, Scott Morrison, Anthony Albanese shonkyminister if he's in politics, etc etc. You didn't say some, or the majority, you said "anyone", so you have outed the lot. I do realise English is not your first language and I do make allowances for that when reading your comments, but this is clear. I have met politicians from various parties and of different political persuasions, getting to know some very well, I can say I haven't found the majority to be as you claim ALL politicians are lying, filthy, scum of the lowest order. That leads me to question your personal knowledge of politicians. I suspect sitting in your tool shed banging on a keyboard your experience would be next to nothing.
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 28 March 2021 6:08:42 AM
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Good Morning Shadow Minister,

When Tony Abbott had a Royal Commission into Julia
Gillard's personal life, way back, Gillard was not a Minister
at that time either. Yet the investigation proceeded. In this
case Porter is not just a politician. He's the Attorney General.
The Chief Law Officer in the land. His reputation needs to
be above reproach. An investigation would give him the chance
to clear his name. There are many questions still unanswered
regarding Porter.

However, Scott Morrison will sort all this out, of that I am
sure. Have a nice day. For me this discussion has now well
and truly run its course. Going around in circles and
repeating the same arguments achieves nothing productive.

Cheers.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 28 March 2021 7:53:21 AM
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cont'd ...

Please don't get me wrong. I certainly don't envy the
PM's job. The scandals coming out of Canberra are
quite dreadful and any PM from any political party
would have their work cut out for them. That's why I
am now pulling out of this discussion. I want to
avoid finger-pointing and further attempts at trying
to score political brownie points.

There are problems in Parliament House that need to
be addressed. Doing nothing is not an option.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 28 March 2021 8:52:01 AM
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Wow! This jackass Andrew Laming is not only an online troll, he likes to get the camera out and take pics of unknown women in shops from behind, with their undies showing. This LIBERAL PARTY gets better by the day!
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 28 March 2021 9:07:24 AM
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Paul, I have had a little more contact with pollies than most, and so I speak with confidence and experience.
My reasoning is, as I have previously explained, that no matter how well intentioned a person, they can be a saint, BUT, once they have been exposed to the cesspool known as politics, at any level, they undergo a life changing transformation.
You see Paul, unfortunately for certain people and professions, unless you are prepared to become "one of them", you will not be accepted or trusted, which only leaves you in the outer.
For you to succeed in politics you have to "join the club".
You know the one, the "I'll scratch your back, if you'll scratch mine" club.
There MUST be that kind of comradery and trust, to enable them to do the shonky, back door, dirty, self serving deals, they do.
Even at international levels, Prime Ministers and Presidents and the like would never succeed if they were not extremely bent, to be able to also trust one another to pull off some of the largest back pocket deals that the public have NO idea or clue about.
To satisfy your yearn for proof, might I remind you of at least one offshore political involvement I was involved with, the Malaysian Prime Minister and his family and govt.
I will not elaborate, but Paul, when I speak of something, I may not get it across quite right, but I do not speak of things I know not about.
I hope this answers your concerns.
Posted by ALTRAV, Sunday, 28 March 2021 10:35:18 AM
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Hi Paul,

Being a member of the "Club" is not enough.

Women MPs have been increasingly saying there's
a culture in Canberra in dire need of change.
There is a "women's problem" in Australian
politics.

Julia Banks, Julis Bishop, Kelly O'Dwyer,
Sarah Henderson, and many more have testified to
that.

We've got the perfect example of the well-qualified,
popular, well respected, party stalwart - Julie Bishop.
Australia's Foreign Minister, Deputy Leader of the
Liberal Party, Senior Cabinet Member, served 10 years as
Deputy, who made a run for the top job.

Had she been a man would she have got the job?
Of course she would have!

But in the macho politics of Canberra - it's the
aggressive masculinist politics that continues to
destabilise the Liberal Party. That's why in the
fury of politics the party room simply overlooked a
legitimate and credible leader such as Julie Bishop.
And why we have today women in politics continue to
be targets of gendered abuse and misogyny not endured
by their male counterparts.

This kind of entrenched sexism places limits on women's
ability to participate in politics on an equal footing.

The "larrikin" and the " aggressor" MPs who thrive in the
"rough-and-tumble" atmosphere of Canberra needs to change.

And Mr Morrison's speeches are not enough. Action is
required.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 28 March 2021 3:24:06 PM
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