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Non-Political Governor General Takes Up Identity Politics.

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Our Governor-General Hurley has gone political by telling his staff to “check their privilege”, and take a ‘privilege walk’ devised by the Charles Sturt University. Check it out on on SkyNews - staff with bowed heads and clasped hands, possibly before heading off on the walk
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 19 February 2021 10:51:50 AM
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The Governor General has a legal obligation to remain apolitical. It is a disgrace that the Queen's representative has behaved in this way. Any Prime Minister Minister slightly interested in the Constitution or protocol would sack him immediately. Unfortunately, we don't have such a PM. Anything goes these days. We are a decaying nation.
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 21 February 2021 7:55:50 AM
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by telling his staff to “check their privilege”, and take a ‘privilege walk’
ttbn,
I don't get this, what's 'political' about that ? Isn't this something we should all say that to each other & ourselves ?
Isn't that what's wrong with the Public Service, taking the extreme privileges for granted ?
Posted by individual, Sunday, 21 February 2021 1:04:08 PM
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individual,

You don't think that identity politics is political? You think white people should apologise for being white? Doesn't sound like you. The GG is legally constrained against being involved in this sort of far left nonsense, or any other nonsense. His ridiculous act is the same as if the Queen did it.
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 21 February 2021 5:50:36 PM
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I guess there are many that want to wipe out White British and Western People and replace them with Black people vs BLM. By extension if Black Lives Matter- White Lives Don't Matter. I believe the fall of White Western People lies hand in hand with their loss of territory.

I'm not an expert on these things- but I've read a little...

It's been said that there are 4 or 5 strains of humans- the police use such descriptions as a form of identification see IC1- Anglo Saxon- Identity Classification- yet the academics seem to deny this identity. If these strains represent different identities then surely they deserve preservation.

Multiregional Theory (an alternative theory) suggests that hominids left Africa at different stages and developed into different regional phenotypicalities- though there was limited interbreeding between regions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiregional_origin_of_modern_humans

The Chinese have claimed this and apparently have produced supporting evidence.

British Boxgrove Man and Swanscombe Man (known as prehuman Neanderthals) are 400+ years old- also stone tools dated at 800+ K years have been found. It seems that pre-human hominids left Africa as soon as they started coming down from trees and making stone tools 10 million years ago before HomoEretus 2 million years ago was fully formed and before Australopithecus 120K years ago the first large brained human.

Bonobo's (flat faced primates) separated from the human line about 10 million years ago. There are primate species that developed in Indonesia implying that at least some primates managed to leave their African origin.

Some might imply that I am pre-Australopithecus based on my mentioning of this theory and therefore have a small brain... Perhaps.

It's been said that Western European attributes of fair hair and eyes have evolved to support vitamin D production at North Areas of the Earth- these attributes being recessive seem to have some implications to how the different strains of humans were separated in the distant past. The is also true of the Asia epilithial eye fold being supposedly an adaption to the cold perhaps because of migration across the Himalaya's. Mountains form over geological time
Posted by Canem Malum, Sunday, 21 February 2021 7:30:19 PM
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Ice ages are also important to hominid migration.

The DNA records also give important information about hominid migration. It's been said that Neanderthal's genetic line is different from that of modern humans- at least no Neanderthal's have been found that link to modern humans- but the data set is fairly sparse and the picture is unclear.

In any case White European People should be protected- every other so called "racial" group has their own territory. African people have Africa, Asian people have Asia, Australian Aboriginal people have territories within Australia. Different strains of humans have different phenotypes and genotypes- skulls, eyes, noses, hair, arms legs, etc. There are some that believe these differences should be wiped away and some believe that they should be protected- some want to frame this philosophical debate as a battle between good and evil
Posted by Canem Malum, Sunday, 21 February 2021 7:30:47 PM
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You think white people should apologise for being white
ttbn,
I think a great & increasing number of them should apologise for being as stupid as they are, in particular those who present morons with Degrees upon vacating the space they wasted in our education facilities to make room for more !
Posted by individual, Sunday, 21 February 2021 9:44:27 PM
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To Individual- I don't think the GG was apologising for being a public servant but for being white.

I've seen pictures of a poor 3 year old girl forced by her mother to hold up a sign saying that she is privileged. Very sad and disgusting.

White people created their own success- they pulled themselves up by their own boot straps.

White men, women and children died to create infrastructure in Britain which created their wealth- and was the source of the industrial revolution that created the middle class
Posted by Canem Malum, Sunday, 21 February 2021 10:03:19 PM
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Can one 'opt out' of this proposed 'privilege walk'?
Is there punishment for staff who do not take part in the 'privilege walk'?
Are non-participants put on a 'never get a promotion ever' list?
Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 21 February 2021 10:32:16 PM
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Anyone can opt out of anything, but few do for obvious reasons. We live in a censorious society where most people feel safest going along with the mob. Appalled and angered as I am by this action by a very privileged and arrogant appointee, I don't know what I would do if my living depended on such a lunatic. But I couldn't condemn those people who did succumb to his bullying.

What I do know is that I've lost any respect I had for the office of the GG, and am even more confirmed in my dislike and mistrust of the PM who has said nothing about the incident.

Given idiots like General Hurley, and Prince Charles with his blatant move into politics, I think that, with the imminent passing of HM, the last of the dignified and loved monarchs, the republicans will get a different result when next they push for change.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 22 February 2021 7:31:00 AM
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Should have said: the drones have been recorded doing the walk. It might still be on SkyNews. It's not really a walk, but an abasing shuffle, back and forth, heads down and hands clasped in front of what looks like an altar. All about letting the 'under-privileged' get the chance to get ahead, while debasing ourselves. No sign of the GG taking part.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 22 February 2021 7:38:17 AM
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Canem malum,
Thank you for clarifying, I misunderstood. I can fully understand why he et al are privileged but I'm White & let me assure you that I know more indigenous who have A LOT MORE than I yet they still claim to be underprivileged.
Like that time one of those 'leaders' sat opposite me telling me about his 'poor' people whilst his $25,000 Gold Rolex was blinding me !
I have said this before, if Indigenous people are discriminated against could I too please be discriminated against ?
Posted by individual, Monday, 22 February 2021 8:55:57 AM
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The elites, including the political class, are intending to switch privilege to a small minority via the aboriginal voice to parliament. Some people will get what 97% of people will not get. Based purely on race. The political class in Australia is intending to create what is an apartheid system as surely as the one they made such a fuss about in South Africa - only theirs will discriminate against majority purely on race. They all want it, so the Australian parliament is a racist one.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 22 February 2021 9:26:43 AM
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White people are the target of critical race theory, which is what this ‘privilege’ nonsense is all about.

Canadian writer and blogger, Stefan Molyneux, described by WACKYpedia as a ‘far-right white nationalist’, believes that the twaddle and hatred put about by the likes of Cancel Culuture is a “rehearsal for mass murder”. If people can accept other people being “disappeared” from social media, they can accept people being disappeared for real.

Mad as a March Hare? Perhaps. But given WACKYpedia’s opinion of him, perhaps not. People in Nazi Germany accepted the disappearance of millions of people, as did the Chinese during Mao’s Great Leap Forward.

Molyneux has written ten books and produced more than 3,500 podcasts. WACKYpedia just criticises and blocks anyone with opinions different from theirs.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 22 February 2021 10:13:08 AM
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Heard on the ABC that Africans are starting to boost the population of Tennant Creek. New enclave in the making ?
Posted by individual, Monday, 22 February 2021 1:31:13 PM
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I think if it was me in that "Privilege Walk" I would burst out laughing !
Laughing is a put down that is almost impossible to counter.

The current attempt at putting down white people is pathetic as it is
nothing other than jealousy. Other races have not been as successful
as European sourced peoples.
So to counter this there is all the waffle about privilege.
The Arabs had their chance but somewhere along the way they adopted
cousin marriage and Islam and that finished them off.
The Africans can adopt all the freely available techniques and systems
that west has developed and see if they can bootstrap themselves.
The Chinese need no help except to realise their own racialism.

The whole white putdown is blatant racialism based on jealousy.
The whites supporting it are just ignorant of the politics.
Posted by Bazz, Monday, 22 February 2021 3:42:09 PM
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The whites supporting it are just ignorant of the politics.
Bazz,
And, our Labor voters are providing ample ammo. I mean, just look at the average one Gawd !
Posted by individual, Monday, 22 February 2021 4:24:54 PM
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ttbn- "White people are the target of critical race theory, which is what this ‘privilege’ nonsense is all about."

I have to admit the ideas of Critical Race Theory at least as explained in the Wiki articles below seem contradictory and confused conclusions- the broader reading on this hasn't clarified it- though some of the ideas seem rational. It's concerning that law in it's use of Critical Race Theory seems to have become separated from democracy.

There are some interesting syllogism's/ enthymeme's here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_race_theory
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_relativism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_constructionism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postmodernism

Postmodernism seems to me to be defined by the claim that all relationships are about dominance and submission rather than cooperation- a one dimensional view. This doesn't seem to be reflected in the wiki article above.

Critical Race Theory seems to be based on the idea than the principles on which different Cultures are based are inherently un-reconcillable and existential/ subjective/ not-objective and so any moral judgement is biased in favour of some prejudicial "Morally Relativistic" framework- and that will always be the case.

Despite this the conclusions of advocates of Critical Race Theory seem to be quite different.

I have a suspicion that something else is going on here- the necessity of some sort of undemocratic social engineering by those with the power but not the right to dominate society.
Posted by Canem Malum, Tuesday, 23 February 2021 10:58:03 AM
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I have a suspicion that something else is going on here- the necessity of some sort of undemocratic social engineering by those with the power but not the right to dominate society.
Canem Malum,
The Anti-White movement is helped greatly by the surplus of morons among the whites !
Posted by individual, Tuesday, 23 February 2021 3:11:08 PM
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The Anti-White movement is helped greatly by the surplus of morons among the whites !
Posted by individual

Answer- Thanks for your post Individual. I have to agree- many think with their hearts rather than their heads- many "snake oilers" are good at manipulating peoples emotions and pressing peoples buttons.
Posted by Canem Malum, Tuesday, 23 February 2021 7:01:00 PM
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think with their hearts rather than their heads
Canem Malum,
Greed & power are a driver for much dysfunction but they could be brought under control by legislation.
The real frightening part of our society is the indiscipline that is driving actual stupidity way above natural stupidity !
An ignorant person can be enlightened but an indoctrinated refuses enlightenment and, it's them who are dragging our society down to ever lower standards. We have reached a stage where forced irrelevant mass Education is achieving exactly the opposite of Education. Luckily, at this stage we have intelligent people who are holding society together by a thread but once they start throwing their hands in the air in despair things will change !
Posted by individual, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 6:12:08 AM
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Posted by individual- The real frightening part of our society is the indiscipline that is driving actual stupidity way above natural stupidity ! An ignorant person can be enlightened but an indoctrinated refuses enlightenment and, it's them who are dragging our society down to ever lower standards. We have reached a stage where forced irrelevant mass Education is achieving exactly the opposite of Education. Luckily, at this stage we have intelligent people who are holding society together by a thread but once they start throwing their hands in the air in despair things will change !

Answer- Very true.
Legislation is more complex. To me a healthy stable traditional society is less about government and law and more about looking after each other for the benefit of all- enlightened self interest. Obviously principles play a part- but it's an effect of "us" rather than a cause. Some have said fewer good laws are better than many bad laws.

Education is the future of society- I'm concerned at the seemingly non-representative nature of current educational institutions. I would like to see different training, hiring, and management of teachers.

If everyone uses their own intelligence then things could be better. But mass media and other "channels" are extremely powerful influencers than can be close to impossible for some to ignore- even over their own best judgement. One technique I use is to limit my exposure to types of mass media.
Posted by Canem Malum, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 11:00:35 AM
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A National Service would provide the foundation for many young people to adopt & appreciate a mentality that distances them from the 'sheeple' mentality. Skills, relevant to the times/surrounds would be acquired. Most importantly, it'd be the acquiring & appreciating of social aptness that'd help them throw the yoke of the insidious social pressures of PC etc. now plaguing our society. The 'Growth" mentality driven so incessantly by those with no other interests then 'making money' would be viewed far more cautiously & likely get hit on the head.
We need fewer but more properly educated people & reduce pollution as much as possible.
A National Service could get us there ! Quality of life for all would be the best reward !
Posted by individual, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 11:43:16 AM
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