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This crazy Covid world.

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China virus vaccine kills 30 oldies in Norway. Talk now of it being useless for people over 65. List of sides effects awaiting Australians - 60% will suffer from fatigue and headaches on top of a list off other dire results. What a f..k up. It's a good thing that the government has ruled out compulsion.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 2 February 2021 9:15:45 AM
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Dear Hasbeen,

Obviously those who arrive from overseas that were already fully vaccinated or recovered from COVID, must first undergo some kind of quarantine on their first 14 days in Australia, though possibly not as stringent. They may be able to perform some roles in quarantine hotels during that period, so long as they do not mix with the general Australian community. They will of course be tested daily.

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Dear Ttbn,

There is this saying: "No pain - no gain"!

The vaccination symptoms indicate how strongly the body is fighting the "virus". The fatigue and headaches that follow the Pfizer vaccine demonstrate how effective it is. With the mediocre AstraZeneca compromise they want to offer us as substitute, we are sadly likely to feel much fewer side effects.

I will do what I can to get the Pfizer anyway. If possible I will purchase it in the open market.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 2 February 2021 10:23:30 AM
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Dear paul1405,

You write: "the Victorian response to the hotel quarantine outbreak was unacceptable"

I thought it was pretty spot on. It was the things that led up to it that I have an issue with including hiring a private company on something this important.

Inadequacies did get shown up but most Victorians that I know are prepared to cut him some slack precisely because of the way he responded.

His failures compared to people like Trump and Boris are infinitesimal but it was the way he showed leadership in tackling them was what people have appreciated.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Tuesday, 2 February 2021 11:37:05 AM
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How did the first incidence of Covid get into Australia? Where did it come from? Who brought it here?
Posted by Mr Opinion, Tuesday, 2 February 2021 11:43:42 AM
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Pauliar,

The federal government authority covers only customs and immigration but not what happens after that. Morrison offered to assist with the running of quarantine which Daniel Andrews refused. The responsibility for the quarantine cock up lies completely with covid Dan.

While I am ideologically opposed to Labor, McGowan in WA at least has the semblance of competence and is not a tin pot authoritarian like the hopelessly incompetent Andrews.

From NSW, Victorians seem to be suffering from a group Stockholm syndrome.
Posted by shadowminister, Tuesday, 2 February 2021 12:47:52 PM
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Shadow Minister, I think the constitution gives quarantine control to
the Federal Govt, but health is a state matter.
So it might be that before disembarkation it is Federal but from then
on it is a state health matter.
So anyone already here that catches it their quarantine is a state matter.
Posted by Bazz, Tuesday, 2 February 2021 1:40:12 PM
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