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Dear Aidan,

That China is our enemy is not my choice, but a matter of fact,
well unless we capitulate and accept their atrocities and evil ambitions.
There was this Chamberlain guy who did not like the idea that Hitler was an enemy: the similarities between Xi and Hitler are striking.

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Dear Foxy,

No one in this context was suggesting to do without money, only to have somewhat less of it, as a reasonable price that is needed in order to maintain our values, morality and integrity.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 5 January 2021 12:11:55 AM
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For 2021, New York State has introduced a bill that, if legislated, will authorise detention centres for anyone who is deemed to be “potentially dangerous to the public health.” The state would be able to remove anyone from society whom they deem to be a risk to public health. The thin edge of a wedge that could also lead to people who say the 'wrong' thing being locked up as mental defectives as happens now in China and other totalitarian administrations.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 5 January 2021 8:33:54 AM
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Yuyutsu,
> That China is our enemy is not my choice, but a matter of fact,

Wrong.
Even if President Xi is as evil as you say, treating the entire nation as our enemy will only entrench his power, especially if the provocation for doing so is something trivial.

Wouldn't it be both easier and more effective to concentrate on making President Xi lose face, while trying to be as friendly as possible to the people of China?
Posted by Aidan, Tuesday, 5 January 2021 9:33:47 AM
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Foxy,
You misunderstood my post. I know Trump and Biden have that in common, and indeed I said so.
But Trump is NOT the former president yet. Though he's in his lame duck phase, he's still president for a few more days.

As for changing our anthem further, if we include a reference to history in the second line then we should find something else to replace "In history's page let every stage Advance Australia fair" - particularly as many historical stages were objectively detrimental to Australia's advancement, and unfair!
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ttbn,
Your "thin end of the wedge" argument ignores two things: the constitution and will of the people. You seem to have trouble grasping that the people will accept temporary curbs on their freedom when they bring substantial tangible benefits for all, but not when they won't.
Posted by Aidan, Tuesday, 5 January 2021 9:54:28 AM
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Lockdowns are an easy way to separate people so that they cannot organise. They allow governments to easily keep an eye on people under the guise of protecting them. The closing down of small businesses that are deemed "non-essential" allows Amazon etc to take over the markets. The profits of Big Business and Big Tech have soared during the China virus-induced panic. The wealth of the middle-class is being shifted to the already fabulously wealthy few. The China virus is being used to facilitate the replacement of democracy with technocracy, and the introduction of virtual slavery of the masses. The Great Reset will be the main danger for us in 2021.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 5 January 2021 10:16:50 AM
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There is an article in yesterday's The Australian

Wuhan lab leaked virus: US
There is now strong evidence Covid leaked from a Chinese biological weapons research laboratory rather than developing in a wet market, says a senior US official.

I saw it on the web earlier but can't find the full version again.

The scuttlebutt I has some time ago was that it is an engineered virus. Something to do with the way it mutates.

Probably explains why the Chinese are not anxious to have it investigated and keep trying to shift the blame elsewhere.
Posted by Mr Opinion, Tuesday, 5 January 2021 10:25:00 AM
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