The Chinese Communist government is "very interesting".

Something about the Chinese CCP that you could also find "interesting" is that they are a also Technocracy, thanks to help from Yanks and the Trilateralists (who are part of Schwarb reset outfit) who actually got China into world trade.

One theory now is that it is not so much Communism or Fascism (much the same really) but Technocracy that we have to worry about.

Canem Malum & ttbn,

You two make a common mistake of equating China with the CCP.

You seem to think that a relative handful of old codgers in the CCP are making all of the WRONG decisions for the entire nation-state comprising 1.4 billion people.

There are millions are grassroots political supporters who represent the 100s of millions of Chinese who are loyal and patriotic members of the nation-state in which being Chinese is seen as an ideal.

Stop seeing the Chinese from your own perspective and put yourself in the position of the Chinese if you really want to understand what things are really like in China.

Posted by Mr Opinion, Saturday, 28 November 2020 11:50:41 AM-

Canem Malum & ttbn, You two make a common mistake of equating China with the CCP. You seem to think that a relative handful of old codgers in the CCP are making all of the WRONG decisions for the entire nation-state comprising 1.4 billion people. There are millions are grassroots political supporters who represent the 100s of millions of Chinese who are loyal and patriotic members of the nation-state in which being Chinese is seen as an ideal. Stop seeing the Chinese from your own perspective and put yourself in the position of the Chinese if you really want to understand what things are really like in China.

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I think the issue perhaps comes down to some semantics- Is China Communist, are the Chinese people Communist, is the Chinese Communist government supported by the Chinese people, is Chinese Communism Nationalist, etc, etc.
I can't answer for ttbn but I do empathise with most of what he (and you) say. I take your point Mr Opinion. With respect I was answering to the article on "Now-Chinese-scientists-claim-coronavirus-originated-INDIA-summer-2019" that you posted. In this case it does seem to be mainly the government that is pushing this "Indian Corona Origin" idea.

But yes the Chinese people do support much of what the Communist government does. Possibly because they see it in their short term interest- they have had it so hard for so long they want something better- ignoring that it was the Communist government that made it hard in the first place- at this stage they are willing to go along with evil because the torture is unbearable.

Many "Upper Class" Chinese (interesting to talk of class warfare in a Communist society) are happy to have their people working 20 hour days for a dollar an hour because they get rich and the alternative is to become one of the ones working the 20 hour days.

Classic Communist military tactics- soldiers stand on the battle lines as "meat for the metal" the officers shoot anyone who dares to turn their heads- with this method four lines of officers can control a million men (1 Officer controls 100 Officers or soldiers) 100 x 100 x 100= 1,000,000- if you fear your own officers more than the enemy what can't the military achieve... At least the soldiers get better pay and food than the average person- and console themselves with the fact that their families may survive.

The terrible mathematics of warfare is fascinating.

ttbn- Yes the Unabomber Ted Kazinsky talked about the dangers of Technology. Technocracy seems to be similar to James Burnham's Managerialism. I've heard it said that internal Chinese politics is due to the Philosophy/ Engineer divide- in reality they are different forms of Communism perhaps.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technocracy

http://off-guardian.org/2020/10/12/klaus-schwab-his-great-fascist-reset/

http://off-guardian.org/

Off Guardian sounds like an interesting organisation.

On the off chance that some of you are interested in being informed you could do worse than reading this short article: https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v42/n20/wang-xiuying/china-after-covid