Too true Aidan

I've gathered myself and come to the conclusion that Australia alone cannot contemplate taking on a huge military power like China. Only the US and Russia can.

What worries me is the creeping Nuclear Potential growing in the Korean Peninsuala and Japan.

North Korea has hot tested ever nastier nuclear weapons over the last few years http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nuclear_weapons_tests_of_North_Korea

North Korea is in the process of miniaturising nuclear warheads to fit on long range land based missiles and on diesel powered submarines https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinpo-class_submarine#Armaments

South Korea in reaction is developing diesel propelled ballistic missile submarines http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dosan_Ahn_Changho-class_submarine

All ballistic missiles on the submarines of Legal Nuclear Powers have been nuclear armed. So even South Korea is contemplating Nuclear-tipped ballistic missiles for submarines.

Japan has had the 3 main components of a nuclear weapons program:
- nuclear explosive Uranium and Plutonium stocks
- knowhow to put together a nuclear bombs since the 1970s
- Epsilon nuclear delivery missiles
Since at least 2018 http://gentleseas.blogspot.com/2018/03/hitachi-asset-in-japans-comprehensive.html

QUESTION: With North Korea and 2 more potential nuclear powers in Australia's region what should Australia be doing?

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Thanks Josephus.

We'll make an Aussie out of you yet. Wish I'd gotten one of the teddybears in the link you provided http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7556283/China-sends-record-numbers-military-officials-Australia-scout-fleet-submarines.html

Pete

plantagenet,

I'm surprised to see you seem to think that China and Russia could be opponents.

By my reckoning they have a secret pact with the view of splitting the world into a Russian dominated West and a Chinese dominated East in the same way the Germany-Japan Axis wanted to do during WW2.

I'm convinced China will move against Taiwan but only after it has been able to exclude the West from the South China Sea.

I also think that China will then move against Australia in a massive blitzkrieg type assault after it conquers Taiwan. It will be over in a week.

Hi Mr Opinion

China doesn't have the motivation or sealift/airlift capacity to invade Australia. Much better to blockade Australia, forcing us to work for China.
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Re your "I'm surprised to see you seem to think that China and Russia could be opponents."

Communist Chinese and Soviet-Russian forces killed each other in 1969 and came close to nuclear war.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Soviet_split#Sino-Soviet_border_war

[1969] Sino-Soviet border war

In the late 1960s, the continual quarrelling between [China and Soviet-Russia], about the correct interpretations and applications of Marxism–Leninism escalated to small-scale warfare at the Sino-Soviet border...

[This rapidly became a larger confrontation.]

...In 1968, the Soviet Army had massed along the 4,380-kilometre (2,720 mi) border with the PRC, especially at the Xinjiang frontier, in north-west China, where the Soviets might readily induce the Turkic peoples into a separatist insurrection.

In 1961, the USSR had stationed 12 divisions of soldiers and 200 aeroplanes at that border, by 1968, the Soviet Union had stationed six divisions of soldiers in Outer Mongolia and 16 divisions, 1,200 aeroplanes, and 120 medium-range missiles at the Sino-Soviet border

to confront 47 light divisions of the Chinese Army; by March 1969, the border confrontations escalated into the Sino-Soviet border conflict [ see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Soviet_border_conflict ]

(2 March – 11 September 1969), including fighting at the Ussuri River, the Zhenbao Island incident, and at Tielieketi.[50]

plantagenet,

I think China and Russia have moved on since the 1960s. Just the same way Australia and Japan have now moved on since the 1940s.

Does China really need that massive an assault force? Keep in mind the enemy is already inside the gate. In fact, don't let the cat out of the bag but there is a former(?) affiliate of the CCP sitting in the federal parliament. But you didn't hear that from me.

Hi Mr Opinion

Re your question:

"Does China really need that massive an assault force?"

And assertion

"I think China and Russia have moved on since the 1960s."

It wouldn't hurt if you did some research, providing links, to support your case.

BTW - Remeber Australia has access to early warning satellites (thank you Pine Gap :) to prevent a surprise Chinese attack.

Nighty Night

Pete

The cost of the latest Virginia class submarines built in the USA is cheaper than the submarines we are looking to buy from France.

As the fuel does not need to be changed for 40 years and we have some engineers from Lucas heights the time before delivery of the subs could easily be spent training the requisite maintenance team.

As China's fleet is presently small and would have to get past Aus's stealth fighters and a US fleet, an invasion is not imminent.

In a few decades in the future, a few nuclear-tipped hypersonic missiles in Northern Aus would eliminate this risk entirely.