I was unaware OLO had so many Selective pacifists.

What part of Australia Needs A Stronger Defence can't you guys understand?

All of you (except Foxy) are pro-Trumpists. The Trump who has weakened the US bilateral alliances with Japan and South Korea the countries most at risk from NUCLEAR ARMED North Korea and China.

Trump is actually weakening his country's Western alliances, part of "America First", thereby strengthening China's military rise.

Hi Pete,

As I stated earlier - I'm no expert on this subject
but I do understand that you are not talking about "nuclear
weapons" but about "Nuclear powered submarines". Which
I take it would be more efficient in naval combat and
as deterrents against foreign invasion - which would
come by sea.

As I stated previously, I don't know the costs involved.
I understand that nuclear subs would be more expensive.
And as far as training crews, and maintenance is
concerned - I again know little on that topic.

As far as I'm aware Lucas Heights is not a nuclear power
station but a research facility - so possibly the knowledge
exists in our country.

Anyway, this is a debate that needs to be taken up because
as you pointed out - we can't rely so totally on our
allliances for our defence. Keep in mind - Chinese warships
have been reported off our coastlines.

MORE VISITS of US NUCLEAR SUBS to AUSTRALIA GOOD - LIKE ONE BELOW IN JAN 2020.

http://www.dvidshub.net/news/360914/uss-texas-arrives-stirling-australia 30 January 2020

Nuclear Propelled Submarine USS Texas Arrives Visits Stirling Naval Base Western Australia

01.30.2020

Story by Petty Officer 1st Class Ryan Litzenberger
[By permission] Commander, [Yokosuka, Japan based] Submarine Group Seven

STIRLING, Australia – The Virginia-class [nuclear propelled] fast-attack submarine USS Texas (SSN 775) arrived at [Australia’s main Naval Base West aka HMAS Stirling, at Rockingham, Western Australia, January 30th, 2020] for a scheduled port visit.

Texas is visiting HMAS Stirling as part of their routine patrol in the Indo-Pacific to demonstrate U.S. Navy’s ongoing commitment to theater security cooperation and friendship with partner navies.

"Australia is one of America’s greatest friends and most loyal allies in the Pacific,” said Cmdr. Mike Dolbec, USS Texas commanding officer. “Our longstanding alliance is a force for stability and prosperity in the Indo-Pacific region and around the globe, and I and my crew welcome the opportunity to do our part to strengthen that relationship, while getting to know Australian submariners on a more personal level.”

During their port visit, Texas will have the opportunity to give tours to dignitaries and media, including the U.S. Ambassador to Australia. Additionally, the crew will engage in a series of community relations events and enjoy some well-deserved rest and relaxation.

“Throughout the planning of this port visit, our friends in the Australian Navy and the larger Perth community have been responsive and kind," said Dolbec. "I am honored to welcome our Australian friends on board, and I'm certain that our time here will be memorable for my entire crew, who have been looking forward to this visit."

MORE TO FOLLOW BELOW

Foxy,

He is talking about submarines capable of parking offshore and unleashing missiles with nuclear warheads at short range to a target city.

For example a sub that can travel from Australia to the East China Sea and fire a missile with a nuclear warhead at Beijing.

That won't stop a Chinese invasion of Australia.

The only hope we currently have of appeasing China is to send Soot and the Boys to Beijing to crawl on their hands and knees to Emperor Xi and kiss his feet.

And I'll be glad to chip in a few dollars to help them on their way.

PS And they can keep Soot and the Boys as part of the bargain for future Wuhan virus experiments.

It's a win-win situation.

>I was unaware OLO had so many Selective pacifists.
What's a Selective pacifist? Someone who selects which wars they oppose?

>What part of Australia Needs A Stronger Defence can't you guys understand?
The part where understanding a slogan magically makes it true!
Australia needs a smarter defence rather than one that is capable of killing far more innocent civilians!

>All of you (except Foxy) are pro-Trumpists.
Now you're being ridiculous!

From a former Naval Commander our submarines were being fitted out by the same Chinese guy that was fitting out the Chinese submarines.
ttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7556283/China-sends-record-numbers-military-officials-Australia-scout-fleet-submarines.html