Anyone drink water straight out from kitchen tap? Recently the water in my area taste little different than before (Rhodes, NSW). Anyone have similar experiences?

Drinking water has to be potable, and I would think that there are still many people drinking it straight from the tap rather than buying extremely expensive "spring" water, which often also comes out of tap, not a spring.

However, there are all sorts of chemicals put in it 'for our own good'. Sometimes these chemicals are overdone, and as was the case in my area recently, the water stank as soon as the tap was turned on, and I bought a filter jug. For some time now, the water has been fine; must have been a lot of complaints. And, I still prefer to drink it rather than pay through the nose for phoney spring water.

r66ald,

Ni hao r66ald .......... Don't like water, go back China!

Should be a residual chlorine reading of 1ppm at your tap. If not, boil the water before drinking it.

Dan

Mr Opinion,

Time to park the casual racism you drop kick.

We have tank water for household use and water in our underground cisterns for general usage, it must be boiled for human consumption.

Hi Issy,

Used to think the best water I ever tasted came from the tanks at the grandfathers property. Then I realised years later he painted his roof with 'red lead'. The tap water in Brisbane has a very slight muddy taste, Sydney water was up and down in quality, could get very cloudy in summer. Over in Fiji the tourist hotels warn guests to only drink their expensive bottled water. I've been drinking the local water for years, and I'm still here.

The stepdaughter buys that expensive bottled water, note in plastic containers, yet when the grandkids come here they drink the cold glass bottle tap water from the fridge. Have a mate in Sydney, a professional entertainer, a few years back he was at me to buy a $5k under sink system that produced "alkaline water", claimed it was the best thing since sliced bread. I said; "Roy, if I wanted to drink alkaline water I'd move to Adelaide, its on tap there!"

The best water is on tap, in the form of a 'Tooheys Old'. Not bad in the bottle as well on a hot day.

SteeleRedux,

r66ald said he/she lives in Rhodes so that means there is a 99% chance that he/she is a Chinese migrant.

So "Don't like water, go back China!"

Swamp Donkey,

So not just a casual racist.

shadyminister,

In Australia we are all Asian now. Chinese, Japanese, Vietnamese, Australianese: they're all Asian to me.

Especially after this week when the Commonwealth capped off the Asianization process of our Great Asianization Period (1980-2020) by formally agreeing to incorporate Australia into the Regional and Comprehensive Economic Partnership which I see as the final step in integrating Australia into Asia.

But will it work given China's ambition to create an empire in which the other 14 Asian nation-states are just vassal states to China?

It'll be easy for you because if you don't like being Australianese you can just pack up and go back the Britain. (PS I'll even throw in a few dollars to help you on your way.)

I've seen it on the news recently that some of
the country areas water supplies due to heavy
rains washing out chemicals in farms is polluting
the creeks, rivers, and water storage areas.

We live in Melbourne and we always boil our water
and keep it in jugs for drinking. We don't drink
straight out of a tap.

Misopinionated,

So ..... all those Asians, from Turkey to Japan, and Yemen to Mongolia, and Korea, Indonesia, Pakistan, India, et. - all secretly speak Beijing dialect Chinese ? They're all in on a conspiracy to take 'us' over ?

I'd leave that sort of rubbish to the usual ratbags.

Joe

I have lived in Melbourne for over forty years and have always found the water from the tap is fine. Sometimes a slight Chlorine aroma but absolutely fine to drink, never a problem.

Foxy,

Did you know that about 70% of the Earth's surface is covered by water.

We should call our planet Water, not Earth.

About 2.5% of the water is freshwater and about half of that is locked up in ice sheets (mainly Greenland and Antarctica).

Australia is the world's driest land mass but Australianese have access to 25 times more freshwater per capita than the rest of Asia.

World War 3 might be fought over access to freshwater, particularly between Pakistan, India and China where the 10 major rivers that feed several billion people have their headwaters in the Himalayas.

And here you are whining about having to boil a jug of water. Aren't you ashamed of yourself?

pseudo-mouth,

I never said that. This is you trying to put words in my mouth again.

Kudos for trying ........... I like a good laugh.

Mr O,

Please don't put words into my mouth Sir.

I'm actually not whining about anything.
Just merely stating the fact that we don't
drink water straight out of a tap. We
boil it and keep it in jugs for drinking.
We've done that for years. It's no biggie.

Aren't you ashamed of yourself for making
wrong assumptions about people you don't know,
have never met, and never will.

Don't put your own prejudices onto others.
Not a good look!

cont'd ...

My response was to a person who was concerned
about the taste of tap water in his area.
I merely advised him on what we heard on the
media from rural authorities and how to avoid
polluted water.

Chemicals in rural water areas have been a problem
for many decades. Boiling the water is highly
recommended by rural councils.

Mr O,

BTW - a few years ago it was reported that
sewerage treatment plants in some major cities
purified the water and put it back into the
water distribution system. No wonder the
water tasted funny in some areas.
Boiled water is safer and really does not take
much effort.

Thanks for the input everyone. I am deciding if I should install one of those under the sink water filter machine or purely buying a water jug with a filter (Brita)? (hence the reason why I am posting here).

It is interesting how some people are so stereotype (living in Rhodes = most likely Chinese). Unfortunately I have to disappoint you, I am not from China, but other part in Asia. Also, what's Chinese got to do with drinking tap water? From my little research online, the tap water quality in China is even worst than Australia

Hi R66ald,

I suspect that you are actually doing research on how quickly an innocuous topic like tap-water can go political these days - that there can be extreme-left and extreme-right views (or views characterised as such by their opponents) even about tap-water.

I suppose it depends on people's obsessions :). Devilishly cunning. Good work !

Joe

R66ald,

We are all Asian now following the Asianization of Australia during the Great Asianization Period (1980-2020) in Australian history.

I now call us Australianese instead of Australian so that we can all see ourselves as equal members of an Asian nation-state.

How's that sound? Make you happy? And please feel free to drink as much water as you want. After all, you're paying for it.

Australian city tap waters are safe for drinking, however flush the first litre before using as most fittings have an amount of Lead in the fittings. These fittings currently are products of China. If you are chemical sensitive there are bottled water that contains no chemicals.

R66ald

Let the experts guide your choices. And below is a link to the world expert on water contamination, Chad Morgan.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cur1p3UdD4s

And if you ignore his advice then you shall learn the true feelings of a dog with worms, and his need to skate on its back side, propelled with its front legs.

Dan

I've got a Brita water filter jug.
They have specials on them as the refill cartridges from time to time.
It's best to grab the 3pk of refill cartridges when they're on special as they aren't exactly cheap.
- But they work well enough, the waters pretty good from them.

All our water comes off our house or sheds roofs. I have lived on tank & well water for about 40 years of my life. In fact in 1950, while waiting 18 months to get water tanks, dad told me to be sure I picked all the frogs out of the buckets of well water I fetched for the house. He doubted mum would ever drink water again if she found one I'd missed.

We have a very large number of birds around here, encouraged by my plantings & feeding. Only an idiot would not expect that many of those birds drop messages that land on one roof or another.

We have been drinking the water off those roofs for 28 years, & our individual immune systems have coped well with any contamination that may be there. In fact I am inclined to agree with those who suggest our fixation with excessive cleanliness, [perhaps not now with the advent of covid 19] may be leaving our kids & us with under developed immune systems.

Not too sure about that, but any messages left to us by our feathered or other friends do not seem to have done us much harm.

Hi Mr O,

A good friend of mine has just bought a unit in Hurstville Sydney, she's only 30. I said; "that's great Lib, you'll love living with so many Chinese". She said "Paul, don't say I am CHINESE, I am TAIWANESE!". Lib don't like Uncle Xi at all. We play politics about China, we don't realise there are real people with genuine fears. My friend is worried about her elderly parents living back in Taiwan, the real possibility that one day mainland China might invade Taiwan. She is happy for China to be China, and Taiwan to be Taiwan, she hates the politics being played by Australia and US. I'm sure the people in Hong Kong feel much the same, they just want to be left alone to live their lives without the fear.

Paul1405,

I know exactly how she feels because I have a similar experience.

You see, I don't want to be Australianese. I want to be Australian.

But too late to turn back the clock after 40 years of Asianization (aka Australian Multiculturalism).

So I and everyone else just have to accept that we are now Australianese and that Australia is now an Asian nation-state as a result of the Great Asianization Period (1980-2020) in Australian history.

A great big Aussie "Ni hao Mate" to you and all your friends in Fiji.

Mr O,

We are one, but we are many
And from all the lands on earth we come
We share a dream and sing with one voice
I am, you are, we are Australian
I am, you are, we are Australian!

NOT Australianese.

Foxy,

Thanks for pointing out the contradiction in that song.

Yes, it needs to be amended to:

We are one, but we are many
And from all the lands on earth we come
We share a dream and sing with one voice
I am, you are, we are Australianese
I am, you are, we are Australianese!

Let's all put our hands together for Foxy ....... a great Australianese.

Mr O,

The only interruption that I will tolerate is
of course - applause!

However, in this case we are singing from different
song-books and the only flair that you have is in
your nostrils.

Foxy,

You and many others have failed to see the aim of Australia's Asianization policy (aka Australian Multiculturalism) over the past 40 years, being the integration of Australia into Asia.

I believe that the formal agreement this week by the Commonwealth to include Australia in the Asian Regional and Comprehensive Economic Partnership was the milestone in what I call the Great Asianization Period (1980-2020) in Australian history.

We are now formally recognised as part of Asia so I think we need to a national identity that matches that great moment in history: Australianese.

Anyone who refuses to accept it is just being racist.

Mr O,

Being such a self-proclaimed scholar -
why don't you look up what "Australianese"
actually means. It may clarify things for
you.

cont'd ...

Your troll-like behaviour and attempts at
provocation - does you no justice.
It's a turn-off.

Foxy,

I just looked up 'Australianese' on the web.

Perfect! It now also connotes Australia as an Asian nation-state (c/o Mr Opinion.)

Mr O,

It says nothing about Australian as an Asian-state.
Australianese - is merely referred to as the type
of English spoken in Australia.

As for Australia being an Asian-state. With only 10%
of the population identifying as Asian - that's an
absurd statement. There's far many more Greeks, Italians,
and others, who could lay claim to Australia.

Time for you to get a different song-book.

Hi Foxy,

And there are hundreds of groups of Australians with some Asian ancestry, i.e. ancestry from Yemen to Japan, from Armenia to Indonesia. Even 'Chinese' means probably a dozen groups or more, from Cantonese, Hokkien (my kids have a Hokkien gr-gr-gr-father, he came out as a miner in the 1850s), Hakka, Tiewchew, Shangainese, Szechuanese, Uighur, Tibetan, and a few, much more recently, from around Beijing.

I suppose our Village Idiot has some sort of weird obsession with that 10 % - or maybe 10 % of 10 % - or maybe a lot less - of all 'Asians' who speak his Beijing dialect and, as he seems to allude to, adhere to a pro-Beijing and pro-CCP line. I don't think they will ever be anything but a very small minority.

And with such a multitude of ethnic groups and languages across the country, and English-speaking groups being in the great majority, and all of those ethnic groups (usually in the second and subsequent generations) inter-marrying, I don't see any possibility of English being displaced as the common language. It is, after all, the common language of 300 Indigenous language groups already ;)

Yes, Australia will always be geographically near Asia; we will increase our economic and social integration with Asian countries. That's as it should be in my book. Perhaps Misopinionated would prefer to sit on a wall in some piddly English village and hurl his waste and curses at passers-by ?

Joe

In my opinion, especially at a time like 2020 where we all facing different challenges around us. We, should set all skin colours, ethnic groups, racial differences aside and be united as one to work across our challenges. We should care more for the people around us, after all we are all one kind - the human kind.

I want to apologise first because I didn't know my post will get to some sort of discussion over our nationalities - which some may get uncomfortable.

With the initial topic I posted and some internet research, I realised I am very lucky to be living in a place like Sydney. I came across a lot of places (online) which hardly get clean water access - which lead me back to "we are all one kind" after all.

Dear r66ald,

Beautifully put.

Well said!

Dear Joe,

Thanks for that.

I'm not sure what Mr O's motives are.
We've covered this ground before - so
many times. And why his obsession with
the Asian people, I don't really know.
Anyway, outside Australia's Indigenous
People we are all immigrants, or
descendants of immigrants - some earlier
than others - but all with an experience
in immigration during the foundation of
modern Australia.

I count my blessings every day to be living
in this vast beautiful country. Migrants
have always strengthened Australia's national
identity. They have not replaced it.
We are one, but we are many, and from all
the lands on earth we come. We share a dream,
and sing with one voice.
I am, you are, we are Australian.
I am, you are, we are Australian!

Foxy and pseudo-mouth,

Obviously we see two different historical processes taking shape.

You two reject the concept of Asianization and only see the processes associated with Australian Multiculturalism thereby rejecting any biogeographical union with the Asian landmass that would establish Australia as an Asian nation-state.

I, on the other hand, see Australian Multiculturalism as a political mechanism for Asianization aimed at integrating Australia into Asia proper by mirroring the ethnic and cultural diversity and disparities found across continental Asia.

Time will tell which of us is on the right track but I believe that the formal agreement this week by the Commonwealth to include Australia in the Asian Regional and Comprehensive Economic Partnership was a milestone that suggests I might be correct.

Capisce signori ........... Or am I still talking over your heads?

Mr. O,

I appreciate your input on your views over the historical processes taking shape in Australia.

I never said I am rejecting the concept of Asianization and frankly I don't have much opinion if Australia is/is not part of an Asian nation-state.

There is no need to tell which of us is on the right track or not. I am here to discuss the water quality in my area and I am not here to divide.

In my opinion, your comments like "Don't like water, go back China!" is already trying to divide our society. You may find your statement humorous or this maybe your true feelings against Chinese - whichever way that may float your boat. You maybe a lovely guy in real person, but I hope you can respect a little more over other people's feeling.

r66ald,

You're a Sydneysider and looks like you have been here a long time.

From your observations what percentage of the Sydney population would be categorised as Asian?

If you are interested to know:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Sydney#:~:text=At%20the%202016%20census%2C%20the,Chinese%20(10.8%25)

r66ald,

Forget the statistics on the web.

I asked from your own observations what is the percentage of Asians in the population of Sydney.

What do you think it is on average from what you see when you travel around the city?

Is it 1 in 2, 7 in 10, 1 in 10, etc?

What do YOU think it is?

I think this is more related to the suburbs you living in. In my opinion I see >5 out of 10 are Asian background. Since I am with an analyst background, I do trust numbers more than observation.

r66ald,

I concur with your observation that Asian peoples account for more than half of Sydney's population (>5 out of 10 as you put it).

Unlike you I actually trust my own observation more than some of the statistical reporting because one can structure a questionnaire to get the results that one wants to see plus a lot relies on the honesty of the informants.

ABS census is politically motivated to get the right numbers needed to support planning policies and is not aimed at describing social structure so I don't have much confidence in it because for me it doesn't ask the right questions.

Hear that Foxy and pseudo-mouth, r66aid concurs with me. Definitely not 10% like you guys try to make out.

r66ald, Please do not get involved with MrO as he is a troll, that suffers from Bipolar Narcissism.

Thanks Josephus!

It seems to me Mr. O isn't paying enough attention as I never mention anything related to his comments on "Definitely not 10% like you guys try to make out"; but he is an interesting one of kind; just like how the 45th US President is.

According to census data - Chinese born residents
make up 4.7% of Sydney's 4.8 million people.

Greater Sydney is home to over 40% of the Nation's
Muslim population which has risen from just over 340,000
in 2006 to over 604,000 people in 2016.

Census data also reveals the growth in capital cities was
twice that of other areas - which is partly the result of
overseas migrants wanting to be in major urban areas.

It is interesting though that census data gives the Asian
population as being merely 10% of Australia's population.

Australia is considered part of the Western World.
Whereas Asia is considered part of the Eastern World.
The Western World influences in Australia are so deeply
ingrained that Australia will never truly be an Asian
country.

It's best for Australia to keep strong ties with Western
Nations while maintaining better trade relations
with Asian nations.

Most Australians would prefer to remain an independent
sovereign nation than be part of Asia. Australia is a
separate continent to Asia. Our Indigenous People are
not Asian. And the culture of the people who came here
earlier and settled was not Asian. So no, we are not an
Asian country.

Foxy,

On page 8, r66ald wrote "In my opinion I see >5 out of 10 are Asian background" when I asked him what percentage of Sydney's population is Asian.

His assessment is in line with mine that Asians account for more than half of the city's population. And r66aid is Asian so why would he lie?

I don't know where these low figures you and others keep citing come from but they definitely do not reflect the demographic reality that one can easily observe by travelling around Sydney.

If you do not believe me then just come and have a look around Sydney for yourself.

Maybe that is the reason Berejiklian is popular, because she is Asian herself and the greater part of the city's population feel an Asian affinity with her.

To me it's representative of the Asianization process that has been shaping an Australianese identity over the past 40 years of the Great Asianization Period (1980-2020) in Australian history.

Just accept it Foxy that you now have an Asian identity. I have and it doesn't bother me.

Dear r66ald,

I Googled the Rhodes are in NSW and asked about the
purity of its water. There's an interesting link at
homely.com.au - and it says that "comments about
polluted water in Rhodes - yes Rhodes was built on
commercial factories and it's been well documented
the toxic level of the water. This is well on the
improve - but its now at the same pollution level
as water in Darling Harbour..."

If I were you I would not drink the tap water.
As I stated earlier - boiling water and keeping it
aside for drinking does not take much effort and is
by far a safer option.

Foxy,

If you have been watching the news you might have seen the debacle with land at Camelia, which is more or less a stone's throw from Rhodes on the other side of Olympic Park.

The land is so contaminated that it is worth MINUS $5 million; the NSW government under Berejiklian bought it for $53 million netting a $15 million profit for its owners, a couple of ardent Liberal supporters. (Looks like another Eastern Creek/ Western Sydney Airport land sale situation with Liberal governments giving taxpayers money to their friends for land that isn't worth anywhere near the sale price.)

I would hate to guess what is in the soil under the high rise apartments at Rhodes. Keep in mind that these apartments were developed specifically to cater for the influx of East Asian migrants being brought in by Berejiklian under her people driven economic plan.

I think it is a matter of profits over lives.

If I was a resident of Rhodes I would be selling up and relocating before the doctor has to tell me that I need to start cancer treatment.

PS Did you see where r66ald also reckons that Asians make up more than half of Sydney's population? I guess this is where I get to say "I'm right, and you're wrong."

Mr O,

Thank You for the information. It does sound
horrific and I think that I also would be
moving out of the area.

As for being right or wrong?

I am merely quoting the stats given by the 2016
census. It is your business what you chose to
believe or accept.

Foxy,

I am a sociologist and I try to be objective about what I observe of people and their society.

I see a city in which over half the population is now Asian and I think this has now been backed up by the comment from r66aid.

You need to question the statistical data you are citing.

I could put together two questionnaires for a survey on the same topic and structure each to come up with two different sets of results. I've always been critical of the ABS census because they only look for answers that support government planning objectives. It's about politics, not about social science.

Mr O,

Once again Sir, it is your business what you
wish to believe or accept.

Foxy,

Interesting.

I'm curious as why I keeping seeing lots of Asians on the streets of Sydney and Melbourne and you see hardly any.

I reckon it's 1 in 2 people and you reckon it's only 1 in 10 people who are Asian.

Interesting. I wonder why two people see two different things when looking at the same thing.

I would be interested to hear what others are seeing in these to cities.

Mr O,

I'm not focused on any particular race of people
as you obviously are. Australians are born close
to 200 different countries and almost half of
the population in 2016 had been born overseas or
had at least one parent born overseas.

The census shows that Australia has a higher
population of overseas born people (26%) than the
US (14%) Canada (32%), New Zealand (23%) and the
UK (13%).

Also 20.9% had one or both parents born overseas
and 50.7% of Australians had a grandparent born
overseas.

There's no escaping it.
We are a nation of immigrants.

See you on another discussion.
This one for me has now run its course.

Cheers.

Foxy,

It's looking like you are what I might call a demographics denialist.

I guess it's because you refuse to accept the fact that Australia has been Asianized and you want to reject your new Asian identity.

I understand your dilemma Foxy. I was the same at first but I learned to accept it and now I am as Asian as you.

Which migrants are Asian?

Is Mise,

Is this one of those cryptic questions? Or do you just want to find out if any of us did geography in high school?

I'll give you my answer: The Asian migrants are the ones who emigrated to Australia from Asia.

But keep it under wraps. We'll just keep it between the two of us.

Do you include Indians?

Is Mise,

Is this one of those trick questions?

Misopinionated,

Maybe a lot of the confusion about your seemingly-idiotic views about 'Asianisation' is the fact that we're all aware that 'Asian' covers a hell of a lot of very disparate groups, across the largest continent in the world, with most of the world's population.

You seem to have the extremely narrow - basically crazy - view that 'Asian' means 'Chinese' - and that 'Chinese' means 'Beijing-dialect-speaking Chinese' - and that 'BDS-Chinese' all support the CCP.

A minority of Asians - in Asia as well as in Australia - are Chinese. A minority of 'Chinese' - including Vietnamese, Taiwanese, Cantonese, Hokkien, Hakka, Szechuanese, Uighur, Hui, Tibetan, a host of minority nationalities - wouldn't be first-language speakers of Beijing-dialect.

Actually, only a relatively minor portion of China itself is occupied by Beijing-dialect Chinese - the rest would be Sinjiang (Uighurs, Kazakhs, Tajiks, Uzbeks, etc.), Tibet, Manchuria and Inner Mongolia (Mongols, Turkic groups and Manchus) and much of southern China.

Beijing-dialect Chinese will never control ALL Asians in Australia. The vast majority of what you call 'Asians' will fight just as hard to oppose CCP control of Australia. Try to get that through your head. Find another group to kick.

Anyway, BTT: I've moved house in the last couple of years, but the Adelaide water still tastes delicious, straight from the tap.

Joe

PSEUDO-MOUTH,

I've never equated Asian with meaning just Chinese.

This is just you trying to put words in my mouth again with the purpose of winning an argument. (I can read you like a book.)

Asians comprise a host of differents peoples from Turks in the west to Japanese in the east and Indians in the South to Mongolians in the north.

The word Asian denotes a vast range of peoples and racial types and connotes ethnic, cultural and racial diversity throughout the region.

I'm not really sure what your point is. Are you trying to say that there was never any program of Asianization of the Australian nation-state?

Misop,

Of course you have: time and again, you have used the phrase "Ni Hao ?" in relation to the your mythical 'Asianising' of Austalia. i.e. you have associated all Asians with a Beijing-dialect phrase.

Try to have some sense, for once.

Joe

PSEUDO-MOUTH,

YOU IMBECILE.

I don't think you can tell the difference between the real and the imaginable.

PSEUDO-MOUTH,

What rock have you been hiding under for the past 40 years.

Of course there has been an Asianization process implemented over that period.

Take a look around our two major cities.

A US guest celebrity commented on Ten's The Project a couple of years ago that she was amazed that Australia was so Asian.

Overseas visitors can see it but not you. Open your eyes!

"I am, you are, we are Australianese!"

Calm Down Get a Hold of Yourself!
http://youtu.be/FNkpIDBtC2c