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Final Debate Muting Trumpus Interruptus

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http://conservapedia.com/Nationalism_vs._globalism

Globalism

Globalism is a liberal and authoritarian desire for a "one world" view that rejects the role of sovereign nations in protecting values and encouraging productivity. Globalism is anti-American in encouraging Americans to adopt a "world view" rather than an "American view." The ultimate goal of globalism is the eventual unification of humanity under a one-world government.

Globalists oppose nationalism, national sovereignty, and self-governance. Instead, they favor open borders, free trade, H-1B visas, interventionism, foreign aid, and changing the U.S. Constitution. They oppose strong border security and the building of border walls. Globalists can come from several political leanings, from the far-left to those considered on the right-of-center.[7]

Liberals support globalism because it leads to centralized power, thereby providing liberals with an easier way to gain control. Liberals can more easily persuade a handful of people in centralized government to rule in their favor than convince everyone of their agenda in a decentralized form of government.
War on Sovereignty
Middle Eastern migrants traveling through Slovenia in 2015 with the assistance of the police and armed forces, a result of the EU's globalist open borders policies.

See also: War on Sovereignty and One-world government

Doing away with national sovereignty and eventually creating a one-world government is an ultimate goal of globalists. They believe in the concept that humanity is progressing for the better, and they want to create a utopia where humanity is unified and where there are no wars, conflicts, or borders (cultural and national). Supranational organizations such as the United Nations, European Union, World Trade Organization, and the Paris climate agreement, appear to be the forerunners to a complete one-world government. All these organizations are supported by liberals. A one-world government is the epitome of big government.
Posted by Canem Malum, Thursday, 22 October 2020 5:18:07 PM
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Canem Malum,

Why do you think Foxy is a "Universalist Globalist?"

I don't see how your given explanations apply to her.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 22 October 2020 5:18:16 PM
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While many of those who either disbelieve or deny the existence of a "War on Sovereignty" imagine it as a very speedy attempt to instantly unite the world into a global government, those who are actively pushing for a one-world government are pursuing a relatively longsuffering strategy that will slowly merge all the countries of the world into each other prior to the official establishment of any world government. They believe this strategy to be the only way it can be successfully achieved. Zbigniew Brzezinski, an Obama advisor and member of the Council on Foreign Relations and Trilateral Commission, admitted this, stating that "we cannot leap into world government in one quick step. The precondition for genuine globalization is progressive regionalization."[8] Organizations such as the EU and NAFTA are examples of this "progressive regionalization."[8]

Additionally, Richard N. Gardner, a former State Department official, wrote in 1974 that a world government could not be established in one step. Rather, he argued that "in short, the ‘house of world order’ will have to be built from the bottom up rather than from the top down," and that "an end run around national sovereignty, eroding it piece by piece, will accomplish much more than the old fashioned assault."[9][10][11] Gardner's strategy has been fully adopted by globalists, and international organizations such as the World Bank, International Monetary Fund, World Trade Organization, Paris climate agreement, and the numerous disarmament treaties are all examples of this strategy in action – eroding sovereignty bit by bit until all the countries of the world are so integrated by the complicated web of international organizations and treaties that the official establishment of a world government can be accomplished seamlessly and would rather be a mere recognition of de facto reality.

Globalists also have used the mass migration, such as the European migrant crisis incident, to advance their goal. As mass migration puts large numbers of people from certain locations into another country with different values, it causes much disruption, and this is able to reduce national pride and make the transition to a global world order relatively seamless.
Posted by Canem Malum, Thursday, 22 October 2020 5:18:28 PM
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Dear mhaze,

You wrote “Back from your self-imposed sabbatical following the CFR/IFR debacle”

Well that got a giggle.

Your deeply flawed understanding of the difference did you no credit so I am a little bemused why you would think it was wise bringing this up again.

As to Trump you have clearly drank large quantities of koolaid.

This is clearly projection from you;

“Utterly corrupt was always suspected, but is now confirmed. Subsuming the nation's interests to one's own family avarice was always suspected but is now confirmed. Being a prime candidate for blackmail was always suspected but is now confirmed.”

To be rolling it out as you have is at least amusing and must be tongue in cheek.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Thursday, 22 October 2020 5:47:40 PM
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runner,

The case of Donald Trump is different.
He is being judged by his own actions.
And they speak for themselves.
And in your case that is what's so sad.
You've been so critical of others in
the past - yet you're buying into this
fraudster and not seeing him for what he
really is. But I guess you're not the only
one doing that - if that's any comfort to you.
I feel sorry for you - and worse - I feel
sorry for America. They don't deserve such
a crude, callous, odious leader - an uncontrollable
narcissist and bully.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 22 October 2020 9:20:01 PM
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cont'd ...

runner,

But hey - you think he's anti abortion?
I guess that's all that matters to you.
The fact that over 220,000 Americans have
died on his watch - and the count is rising
as he continues to flaunt the safety measures
and calls Dr Fauci all sorts of name - doesn't
matter. Plus the fact that he places children in
cages - that's OK as well. And the list goes on.

And you pretend to be a Christian. You're the one
who needs to stop pretending.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 22 October 2020 9:26:20 PM
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