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A Victory for the Meritocracy.
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Posted by Mr Opinion, Tuesday, 20 October 2020 10:09:18 AM
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Dear Paul,
A victory for the meritocracy if Trump wins? I suspect that many of his supporters would agree with that seeing him as a man who's succeeded despite all sorts of grand conspiracies. They see him as the best there is. And his message to them is that they are doing poorly at present because they have the cards stacked against them by cheats and crooks (of course he excludes himself from that). His message is if the deck is re-arranged by him ( and he is after all a casino operator from way back) then luck and merit will once again be allowed to play its proper role. If that sounds like a con. Many of the ideas attached to the concept of meritocracy are a con. Lets not forget the wealth and connections he inherited and had a good education. If we don't address inequality in a democratic way we will always find political leaders like Donald Trump who use inequality in order to basically tell you stories. "This is the fault of foreign workers", "This is because of foreign countries like China," and the list goes on. You can always blame someone. Sadly in the US by and large the bottom and middle social groups have been neglected for so long and today they're paying for that neglect. Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 20 October 2020 11:45:21 AM
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Dear Paul, We should consider ourselves lucky to be living in Australia. Some of the richest business figures in Australia were postwar migrants from Europe. Lowy and Grollo are still with us; the baton having been handed on to the next generation. We've had people here who were Holocaust survivors, others fled from communism. Alan Bond a British child migrant could not get into the Royal Perth Yacht Club but he unbolted the America's Cup from the Yanks. Members of my own family have risen through the ranks of their chosen fields through their hard work and talent and have contributed in various ways to their communities. We all consider ourselves very fortunate. Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 20 October 2020 11:55:47 AM
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Hi Mr O,
For some of the forums old farts, understanding of how the concept of a Meritocracy is, and how it's applied in America is beyond their capacity of thought. Obviously they didn't read Stan Grant's article. True if it was a level playing field, and things being equal the most intelligent would rise to the top and become the natural leaders, all well and good. Unfortunately in America today, those who are a privileged part of the small but elitist Meritocracy, generally through birth, a bit like the old Aristocracy, and through that accident of birth they automatically qualify for merit and therefore leadership rolls, and everything else society has to offer. Such people have inherited wealth, attend the best schools, and have access to power, through this elitist system. The same people taunt the excluded with calls of "you to can do it, if only you would try". In the article you will see how Obama exploited that very notion, that its somehow the fault of the disadvantaged for not trying hard enough. A bit like an abled bodied man standing at the top of a very deep pit with a legless man at the bottom, yelling down; "you can jump out of the pit if only you would grow a pair of legs. When the legless chap fails to grow those legs he is scolded for not trying hard enough. Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 20 October 2020 12:04:10 PM
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.. those who are a privileged part of the small but elitist Meritocracy, generally through birth, a bit like the old Aristocracy, and through that accident of birth they automatically qualify for merit and therefore leadership rolls, and everything else society has to offer.
Paul1405, Exactly how Academia has been working over the past 40 years ! Academia is the new Tories ! Posted by individual, Tuesday, 20 October 2020 12:25:16 PM
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Dear Paul,
I've just come across an interesting article that I want to share. It raises some valid points regarding meritocracy. We're told that - "having a smart president (or CEO) and the best brains in the room at the White House (or company board room) is not guarantee of a trumphal presidency (or the company) being a success or good for the country (or the organisation) especially if the president (or the CEO) does not listen to his advisors". Also, "while it is obviously better to have smart people than less astute men and women trying to figure out answers to current challenges. It offers no certainty that serious problems will be solved - ov even that the right decisions would be made". The article gives clear examples when having smart people did not lead to either promised or anticipated solution. It's worth a read: http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/12/18/why-the-best-and-brightest-are-often-the-dimmest-and-worst-at-governing/ Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 20 October 2020 1:35:48 PM
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ha ha ha ha ............ Your joke is a lot funnier than SL West's joke.