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Congratulations to the Greens for their new Senator for Victoria
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Posted by Is Mise, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 3:59:02 PM
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Hi Issy,
Like many Greens I am not opposed to the necessary sustainable management of native fauna, kangaroos in particular. What has to be opposed is the reckless and senseless indiscriminate destruction of both habitat and native animals by the crazy recreational shooters and hooters, like the well known crazy, the infamous wombat killer, and used car salesman, Tony Azzi. Not being familiar with the 'Australian Hunting Forum' myself, maybe you can provide a link or some such evidence of "acclaim" being heaped on Greens Senator Thorpe from Victoria, who incidentally I am also not familiar with, but being a Green I'm sure she will be a valued contributor to the Australian politic in Canberra. BTW, are you still backing Trump to win the election over there? I'll hold you to that one if you should get it wrong. BBTW, hate to be like a Issy nit picker, but acclaim has two C's. Get onto that spell checker of yours; 'Gruberly', have no need myself as I am PARFICT when it comes to such things! Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 15 October 2020 7:18:17 AM
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How can Lidia Alma Thorpe be in the Australian Senate representing Citizens of AUSTRALIA when she claims she is not Australian. She is an uneducated traitor!
The Greens have another agenda behind this to destroy our Western democratic values. http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/exclusive-why-our-next-senator-doesnt-identify-as-australian-she-was-steeled-growing-up-in-housing-commission-her-resilience-hardened-by-racism-and-when-lidia-thorpe-thought-shed-escaped-she-became-trapped-again-this-is-her-inspiring-story/ar-BB15XYBU Posted by Josephus, Thursday, 15 October 2020 7:37:52 AM
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Prod Boy Jose' better than having some fake American terd pretending to represent the people. How's your Aussie chapter of Proud Boys going, planning anything BIG?
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 15 October 2020 8:37:13 AM
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Senators are supposed to be representing their state, not promoting racism and identity politics.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 15 October 2020 9:14:55 AM
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But, hey. Anything goes in Australian politics today, with the NSW premier toughing it out and surviving a no confidence vote among other politicians who apparently approve of her behaviour. And there is media yap that the public sympathises with her.
The adage that voters get the politicians they deserve has never been truer in Australia, as they keep voting for the same lowlife, career politicians. Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 15 October 2020 9:43:03 AM
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ttbn, "Senators are supposed to be representing their state, not promoting racism and identity politics" sadly we'll just have to put up with the Lovely Pauline for a little while longer. "keep voting for the same lowlife, career politicians." But Corny Banana is giving it away, retiring on all that dosh from the sucker bait, that joined up, and parted with the cash, btw how's the party, a rather sad ending to the Australians Conservatives would you say. Could count their votes at the last election on one hand.
Indy, haven't asked for a few years, but how's those book sales of yours going? Now what was the title, oh yes; "Road Kill Recipes for the Unsuccessful Hunter" Loved the 'Squashed Wombat with a BBQ'ed Koala Sauce', my all time favourite. BTW, My son reckons he's heading out to Wellington, going to make contact with the tribe, have you ever been to Euchareena (pop 300), told the lad to blow in there, and look up the cousins, wont be hard to find. Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 15 October 2020 12:19:39 PM
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Is our new senator really an aborigine ? She does not look it.
True aborigines seem to be fading into the past. Look at the writer that the ABC is promoting, he seems whiter than Santa Clause. The whole business is getting sillier and sillier. Some forms ask if you are aborigine, what if I said I am, and collect some discriminatory money how are they going to prove it ? I could say that my father told me that his grandmother was aborigine. I couldn't prove it or disprove it. DNA ? Perhaps, perhaps not. Another 100 years, who cares ? Posted by Bazz, Thursday, 15 October 2020 12:40:36 PM
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That old chestnut from that side of politics; "Is our new senator really an aborigine ? She does not look it". True aborigines seem to be fading into the past." Nah she doesn't look like Truganina what so ever, should all Aboriginals fit your stereotype? Do you fit the Captain Cook stereotype?
Pray tell, what does a European Australian look like? Hair, eyes, features, etc. I see all sorts of people claiming to be Pommy Australian, yet they all look so different. Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 15 October 2020 1:03:44 PM
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That Paul, is just my point !
Posted by Bazz, Thursday, 15 October 2020 2:38:43 PM
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Australian Aboriginality is changeing. I witnessed this change personally over 40 years. In the late 70's any Indonesian, Malay, Japanese, PNG, New Caledonian, Solomon islanders, Samoans & some part Maories fiercely objected to being called Aborigine or TS islander .
As of about 20 years ago they just as fiercely now identify as Indigenous. I have no experience with Aboriginals from other continents & if they're going through a similar change or not. Posted by individual, Thursday, 15 October 2020 6:26:29 PM
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Indy,
I'm not familiar with any Islanders or Maori who identify as Aboriginal Australians. There are many people throughout the world who identify as indigenous, about 5% of the worlds population. Indigenous being the people originating from a particular place, see the link below for more detail. What is your point in saying "As of about 20 years ago they just as fiercely now identify as Indigenous", they were always indigenous, are you saying they are in some way trying to claim Australian aboriginality? You did say you are not a native born Australian, so are you something else, are you indigenous from somewhere else? http://www.worldbank.org/en/topic/indigenouspeoples Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 15 October 2020 8:23:02 PM
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n some way trying to claim Australian aboriginality?
Paul1405, Not only but succeeding also. Go to any remote indigenous community anywhere in the world & you'll find non-indigenous trying to assimilate. In Australia they succeed because here anything Indigenous has become a rather lucrative career path & business model courtesy of utterly ignorant bureaudroids. Posted by individual, Thursday, 15 October 2020 10:17:19 PM
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Congratulations to the greens for jettisoning that hypocritical wet blanket Dinner Tally.
The new senator I believe gives a huge new opportunity to virtue signal. I believe that she is not only able to represent women and the aboriginal community but I believe a lesbian Muslim with brain damage could be a token for the Muslim, LGBTIQWZ@ and disabled communities as well. The only question left is which pronouns does "zee" prefer? Posted by shadowminister, Friday, 16 October 2020 7:23:09 AM
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Ditto repeato: this woman can represent only her state, not particular races or ethnicities, or her own barmy beliefs. The Senate is a house of review. She should have gone for a lower house seat if she wanted to rock any boats, not the Senate, whose denizens are not up to campaigning and actually winning a seat.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 16 October 2020 9:04:47 AM
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http://www.mojonews.com.au/page/northcote-candidate-profile-lidia-thorpe-greens
From her photos she presents as Italian / Mediterranean appearance. Posted by Josephus, Friday, 16 October 2020 9:35:17 AM
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Why are we questioning this lady's DNA?
Would we do that if she was a bloke? She got the job on merit. Why not look at what she's done and her working background and how involved she is involved in her communities and electorate? People did vote her in and judge her on her actions not her looks. Strewth! Posted by Foxy, Friday, 16 October 2020 10:04:38 AM
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Because Foxy, it has become a racket !
There is money involved, more if you claim to be aborigine. To make a false claim is a criminal act and the bureaucracy who get paid very big salaries to administer such things never check or there would be a pile on of complaint. Their ABC pays the extortion itself. If someone claims an aboriginal payment or privilege and they are 50% should they get prorata ? Posted by Bazz, Friday, 16 October 2020 10:52:18 AM
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errr Foxy, people did not vote her in, she was selected by her party.
Posted by Bazz, Friday, 16 October 2020 10:54:02 AM
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The Senator is pro-hunting and the sustainable harvesting (killing) of animals for human use, even protected Australian fauna.
Good on her! Posted by Is Mise, Friday, 16 October 2020 11:13:26 AM
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errrr Bazz,
You need to get your facts right. Lidia Thorpe's record speaks for itself. She has been actively involved with the Aboriginal communities for a very long time and has achieved a great deal for them. She is not out to "rort" anyone least of all her own people. Her grandmother Alma Thorpe was the founder of the Victorian Aboriginal Health Service. For your information - Lidia Thorpe WON the seat of Northcote at the 2017 by-election in Victoria. She was sworn in as a Member of Parliament on 28th November 2017 and delivered her first speech to the Assembly the following day. It was in June 2020 that Lidia Thorpe was pre-selected by the Victorian Greens members to fill the FEDERAL Senate vacancy caused by former leader Richard Di Natale's resignation. She is the first Aboriginal woman to firstly represent Victoria in the Senate and is the first Aboriginal FEDERAL parliamentarian for the Greens. You're welcome. Posted by Foxy, Friday, 16 October 2020 11:17:35 AM
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Thorpe was appointed, not voted in by anybody. Even under normal circumstances, Senate candidates are a shoo in if their party puts them in the right position on the ticket at normal election times. They don't have to work for it.
As for appearances, I think her tan is a least as good as Stan Grant's. Thorpe will open her gob to badmouth everyone not like herself; nobody will take any notice, and she will soon pass from the public eye. Posted by ttbn, Friday, 16 October 2020 11:56:38 AM
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Thorpe was appointed, not voted in by anybody. Even under normal circumstances, Senate candidates are a shoo in if their party puts them in the right position on the ticket at normal election times. They don't have to work for it.
As for appearances, I think her tan is a least as good as Stan Grant's. Thorpe will open who gob to badmouth everyone not like herself; nobody will take any notice, and she will soon pass from the public eye. Posted by ttbn, Friday, 16 October 2020 11:57:37 AM
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Absolute BS!
Thorpe WON the seat of Northcote at the 2017 by-election. She was not appointed. She was sworn in as a Member of Parliament on the 28th November 2017 and gave her first speech to the Assembly the following day. She was the first Aboriginal woman to represent Victoria in the Senate. It was not until June of this year (2020) that Thorpe was preselected by the Victorian Greens members to fill the FEDERAL Senate vacancy caused by former leader Richard Di Natale's resignation. She is the first Aboriginal FEDERAL parliamentarian for the Greens. As for her fading out of the public eye? That is something that nobody can predict. However her record of activity and involvement in Aboriginal matters and issues suggests that her disappearing out of sight is highly unlikely. She comes from a family of activists. And her record speaks for itself. Bravo! Posted by Foxy, Friday, 16 October 2020 2:07:11 PM
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cont'd ...
BTW: People have always spoken out in this country. The only ones not getting it are the sheep and the conformists. The non-achievers, who try to suck the energy and optimism out of the rest of us. Let them stew in their own misery. The rest of us don't give a ... Posted by Foxy, Friday, 16 October 2020 2:23:18 PM
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Foxy, no one said she was not elected to the VICTORIAN parliament.
She was NOMINATED by her party to take up the Green's vacancy in the SENATE ! Stop wriggling ! Now she is in the senate we can watch and see what she can do there. Previous Greens senators have not exactly been inspiring but perhaps --- Posted by Bazz, Friday, 16 October 2020 2:46:20 PM
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Hey BAZZ,
You still don't get it. I'm not the one wriggling. Thorpe won the seat of Northcote in the Victorian by-election in 2017. She was sworn in as a MP on 28th Nov. 2017. In June 2020 Thorpe was pre=selected by Victorian Greens to fill the federal Senate vacancy of former leader Richard Di Natale's resignation. It's not brain-surgery. Posted by Foxy, Friday, 16 October 2020 2:53:01 PM
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Foxy, I do not understand why you cannot see the difference.
She was a member of the VICTORIAN parliament. She must have resigned. That does not make her a senator of the Federal Parliament. Until she was sworn in as a senator she had NO standing in Canberra. Until then she was just a member of the public. Posted by Bazz, Friday, 16 October 2020 3:12:41 PM
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There's hope yet, Foxy has not yet claimed to identify as Australian Indigenous !
Posted by individual, Friday, 16 October 2020 3:29:02 PM
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Bazz,
I don't understand why this is so difficult for you. The argument arose because you stated that people did not vote Thorpe in. They did. She ran as a Greens candidate (not as an Independent) - and people did vote her in as their member of the Victorian Legislative Assembly for Northcote. She was a Member of Parliament from 2017 to 2018. Now in June 2020 Thorpe was pre-selected by the Victorian Greens to fill the federal senate vacancy caused by former leader Richard Di Natale's resignation. She was the first Aboriginal woman to represent Victoria in the Senate and now is the first Aboriginal federal parliamentarian from the Greens. I can't make it any clearer for you. Why all this stirring? Do you have a problem with either Aboriginals or the Greens or perhaps both? Posted by Foxy, Friday, 16 October 2020 3:42:41 PM
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Foxy,
She was appointed to the Senate not elected by the voters of Victoria. None the less she's doing a great job, I really liked how she gave PETA the message. Posted by Is Mise, Friday, 16 October 2020 5:53:22 PM
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Thorpe lost the state seat she had won in 2018 to a Labor candidate. She has NOT won anything since then. She was APPOINTED to fill a vacancy in the Senate as is usual practice. Only a moron would not understand that.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 16 October 2020 8:44:28 PM
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I have said all along that yes - she was appointed
to the FEDERAL Senate seat by the vacancy caused by former leader of the Greens Richard Di Natale's resignation - in June 2020. However, Thorpe WON the seat of Northcote at the 2017 by-election in the state of Victoria. She served in that Senate 2017 - 2018. She is the first Aboriginal woman to represent the state in the Senate in 2017. And she is now the first Aboriginal parliamentarian from the Greens in the Federal Senate. Some people still don't seem to get it. Posted by Foxy, Friday, 16 October 2020 9:22:10 PM
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cont'd ...
One never quite allows for the moron in our midst. (smile). Posted by Foxy, Friday, 16 October 2020 9:29:28 PM
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The Forums red necked racists brigade are beside themselves. Here we have an Aboriginal, a woman, and she happens to be a Green, she's in their parliament. What next they ask, will there be gays in government. A shocking state of affairs for the lads?
One of the lads put money into a failed political party and got ripped off! What a bright spark was he! Prod Boy Jose', With things looking rather grim for you All American Boys, I asked if you were planning anything BIG, you didn't answer. Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 16 October 2020 9:34:46 PM
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Paul, I am sure you get the point, Foxy tried to make out she was
elected to the senate, because Ms Thorpe was previously an elected Victorian parliament member. I do not think Foxy understands the nature of the states and the status of the Federation Parliament. Which surprises me as she has been around here long enough to have learnt all the ins and outs of the constitution. That Ms Thorpe had previously been a member of the Victorian parliament had no legal bearing on her being accepted as a senator. I hope she makes a mark as a senator for the benefit of aborigines. Posted by Bazz, Friday, 16 October 2020 10:10:28 PM
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Well I don't know the woman personally.
I looked up some stuff online. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lidia_Thorpe Am I wrong for saying it looks like we have: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lidia_Thorpe_2020.png Lidia Thorpe the Greens party member and pleasing to white Greens voters persona http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:JMP_6002_(32472812447)_(cropped).jpg Lidia Thorpe the black activist persona and a leader of the 'Pay the Rent campaign', which calls on non-Aboriginal Australians to voluntarily pay reparations on an individual basis through an organisation of the same name. [From wikipedia in the section under activism] Then I found this: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/greens-northcote-candidate-reveals-abusive-relationship-led-to-her-bankruptcy/news-story/0b53d6f348de3f5aaf783cf11c816d42 "The documents showed more than $611,000 in secured debts and mortgages, including with Indigenous Business Australia. There was also almost $100,000 owed to unsecured creditors — $55,277 to the Australian Taxation Office, about $38,500 in business loans and almost $3700 in unpaid rates, utilities and childcare." "She said she was lumped with growing debts after her abusive partner froze her out of their shared glazing business in Gippsland." So somehow, your blaming an abusive partner for: - Ripping off other businesses and individuals 100k and claiming bankruptcy - 55k unpaid taxes, is she saying she never got any of those earnings? - 38k in business loans unpaid rates - electricity bills - and childcare I'm sorry hey but this woman looks like a trainwreck Does she have any kind of track record of managing anything properly? I know it says she's done good things but what exactly? Gotten support for the 'hate whitey point of view' by telling aboriginal people she's going to make whites pay the rent if they vote for her? Well be paying the rent alright. 611K in debt, and suddenly she becomes 'unbankrupt' when she's got an opportunity to get her snout back into the trough at taxpayers expense? Something it seems she's rather skilled in? For me I see red flags, but as I first said I don't know her personally and don't really know for sure what she's really all about. First impressions: Scowl face. Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 17 October 2020 12:17:02 AM
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Bazz, I understood what Foxy was saying. Casual vacancies in the Senate are filled by a person nominated by the Premier of the state concerned. Having said that, convention dictates that a name is put forward by that party to the Premier, who in turn "automatically" nominates that person to fill the vacancy. That was the convention until 1975, following the sudden death of Queensland Labor senator Bert Milliner, Labor nominated Mal Colston to Primer Joh Bjelke-Petersen to fill the vacancy. Bjelke-Petersen refused, and instead placed a f wit named Albert Field into the Senate. Field was it seems was an ALP member, surprise, surprise, but vermently anti Whitlam, a sort of a black member of the KKK. It was Fields vote that ultimate blocked supply to the government, and that alcoholic turd Kerr sacked Whitlam.
p/s A Premier could nominate anyone they like to fill a casual senate vacancy, so there is still hope for you. BTW from my experience the Greens have the most exhaustive process of any party in selecting political candidates, its entirely done at the grass roots level. Unlike the major parties which often cut out the rank and file in the candidate selection process, the Green's constitution prevents that. If people want to shot dirt at a Senator who filled a casual vacancy take a look at Labor's Kristina Keneally from NSW who was parachuted in to replace Grubby Sam. Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 17 October 2020 6:48:23 AM
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Issy, given your past record of porkeness, and your lack of providing evidence that as you claimed; "The Senator is pro-hunting and the sustainable harvesting (killing) of animals for human use, even protected Australian fauna."
As the one authorised to give out such awards on the forum, I present you yet again with a PORKY AWARD (first class) for you know what. Your 27th such award for the year! AC, what a beat up, you should be a Proud Boy of yourself! Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 17 October 2020 6:56:26 AM
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Scott Morrison doesn't even look Australian! He looks like a Telly Tubby from Telly Tubby Land, so does Albo. Remember Rudd and his line "fair suck of the sauce bottle!" a dead set give a way for unaustralianess, no fair dinkum Aussie dingo of a bloke would be caught dead with his pants down, or sucking on a real sauce bottle. Yep, sucking on a bottle of piss, too right, also known as sauce (not real sauce, but piss sauce, the XXXX and VB varieties) is totally acceptable with all us blokes, its ridgy didge as far as we're concerned. In fact the whole Coalition government, and most of the Labor mob look like Telly Tubby's in my opinion. Its a conspiracy to deny the true Australian culture as portrayed by the one and only Barry McKenzie! Anyway me thinks we have a few Barry's on the forum.
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 17 October 2020 10:22:44 AM
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'AC, what a beat up, you should be a Proud Boy of yourself!'
What because I'm not sipping the Kool-aid like all of you? Call me whatever you want, lets just assume I agree with it all Because for the sake of avoiding arguments I don't really care what you call me I'm sorry if you somehow thought the true purpose of this forum was to blow smoke up each others dates and just agree with everything, then I have bad news. I have a war on stupid, because there's too much stupid. If I see it stupid, I point it out. I'm not saying she's as daft as SHY But it's only reasonable coming from that camp that we consider the distinct possibility right? Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 17 October 2020 1:01:41 PM
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Big win for Labour in New Zealand and in the local ACT elections. The Greens did okay as well, The conservatives got blown out of the water.
Issy what happened with your Shooters and Hooter? AC, I don't think you have a war on stupid, what you call stupid others may see as brilliance. Your war is more on progressive thinking than anything else, of course you wouldn't see it that way, being the brilliant chap you obviously are. Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 17 October 2020 8:52:48 PM
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"The documents showed more than $611,000 in secured debts and mortgages, including with Indigenous Business Australia.
There was also almost $100,000 owed to unsecured creditors — $55,277 to the Australian Taxation Office, about $38,500 in business loans and almost $3700 in unpaid rates, utilities and childcare." If you think this is progressive, then you need to have a rethink Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 18 October 2020 6:13:37 PM
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And Donald Trump owes $400 million, but others will pay that debt, they always do.
AC the man considered by some Australia's founding father Sir Henry Parkes was a brilliant politician, but a terrible businessman, perpetually in debt. Okay, with all your free thinking, you don't like Greens, your prerogative. You would rather be a slave to conservative thinking, that's okay as well. Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 18 October 2020 8:22:07 PM
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Paul,
"Issy, given your past record of porkeness, and your lack of providing evidence that as you claimed; "The Senator is pro-hunting and the sustainable harvesting (killing) of animals for human use, even protected Australian fauna." Thought that you'd never ask. All the evidence needed was provided by the Senator when she was sworn in. She wore a possum skin cloak. Possums are not farmed and the only humane way to kill them is by hunting with a rifle, instantaneous death from a well-placed headshot and as they don't run away a headshot is easy. She would not have wanted them subject to the trauma of being trapped or a lingering, horrorific death from 1080 poisoning so she must favour hunting. As they were killed to provide a garment for a human being then she favours the sustainable killing of animals (even protected ones) for human use. She shewed PETA where to go by wearing an animal fur garment. Posted by Is Mise, Monday, 19 October 2020 2:00:59 PM
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Hi Issy, that wont do, no evidence, were you in attendance at gov house for the ceremony? I bet not. How do you known it wasn't fake fur, like that fake blond Marilyn Monroe wig I seen you wearing last week! I referred your complaint about receiving another Porky Award to the Complaints Committee, that's also me, and the committee in a unanimous decision up held your Porky Award (first class). I did argue a very good case on your behalf before the committee but to no avail, sorry about that old chap.
BTW Answer the question; Are you still backing Trump? Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 19 October 2020 5:03:41 PM
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Paul,
Trump to Win!! Fake fur or not the message is still the same; or is she guilty of blatant hypocrisy? Posted by Is Mise, Monday, 19 October 2020 6:02:33 PM
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Paul, I've been keeping an ear out on Joe and his corruption.
http://www.facebook.com/hashtag/quidprojoe While President Trump speaks fluently and with conviction at his rallies; poor Joe Biden has a teleprompter. Posted by Josephus, Monday, 19 October 2020 8:19:26 PM
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It takes around 80 dead possums to make an Aboriginal Possum Skin Cape; that's 80 cuddly little protected native fauna killed to make a political/fashion statement.
Not doing much to protect our native animals. Posted by Is Mise, Monday, 19 October 2020 8:48:03 PM
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Hi again Issy, Trump looks deader than a Tony Assi wombat!
Is there any chance you could front up to Gov House tomorrow wearing your latest GI Joe outfit, and your Marilyn Monroe wig for that special effect. Governor Phil will then pin your Porky Award on your chest, watched by and assortment of odd bods from the Shooters and Hooters, dressed in appropriate animal hides Bob Ballsup in his elephant skin, does it still fit, he has put on weight? Phony Tony in his wombat hide. BTW, Me thinks its time to plug your book again! FOLKS, get your copy of Issy's non seller 'Road Kill Recipes For The Unsuccessful Hunter', available where all trashy books are sold. Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 19 October 2020 8:58:39 PM
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One last thing Issy, since we are talking about foodies.
Did you by any chance attend this years 'Great Koala Barbecue' organised by the NSW government with help from the Shooters and Hooters. I believe through their dismal efforts several hundred koala's were fried and roasted in the trees. Did you by chance bump into Daryl and Gladys at the nosh up, they were an item then you know. Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 19 October 2020 9:11:37 PM
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Proud Boy Jose' glad you could pop in. I don't think President Trump speaks fluently. I think President Trump speaks effluently.
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 19 October 2020 9:17:47 PM
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"You would rather be a slave to conservative thinking, that's okay as well."
No actually, I'd prefer to not be a slave to anyone's thinking. I prefer the concept of being my own person and being able to think and speak for myself. 'And Donald Trump owes $400 million, but others will pay that debt, they always do.' If he owes people money then he should also pay his debts. I don't really support any shady or unbecoming practices where one person deliberately exploits a system for their own gain. Many of the rich use loopholes to get rich and lawyers to protect it. On an individual basis, I may or may not think all these loopholes are fair. But I do respect that these people went out and achieved something for themselves where others were not that way inclined. The non achievers would barely be able to exist at all with the lives they have if it wasn't for those who did achieve things. Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 20 October 2020 5:12:15 AM
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Paul,
Touched a nerve it seems. Have a deko at this: http://www.coralexpeditions.com/au/destinations/great-barrier-reef/outerknown-adventures/?utm_source=Australian%20Geographic&utm_medium=Takeover&utm_campaign=GBR%202020 on the making of possum skin cloaks. Lots of info on the net but no explanation of how a protected animal is slaughtered for a fashon industry (small though it is). Posted by Is Mise, Tuesday, 20 October 2020 6:23:28 AM
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Issy, I opened your link, are you trying to send me on a cruse. If Trump gets up its your shout! You and me on the high seas, wouldn't that be fun!
BTW I discovered where all them there Possums came from; "Possums are a serious pest animal in New Zealand and a threat to our forests and native wildlife. They eat leaves, flowers, leaf buds, fruit, eggs, birds, insects and snails. ... People used to think that possums only ate plants. But in 1993 possums were filmed eating the eggs and chicks of endangered kokako." Definition of a Possum; eats, roots and leaves! Issy, on the score of cloaks, the wife makes Korowai's (Maori cloaks) not from the traditional kiwi feathers, but from chicken and turkey feathers, a bit of a hobby. When I visited Bishop Museum in Hawaii I seen a Korowai 7 foot long, its estimated 3,000 kiwis we used in its making. Is this you getting ready for a shooters and hooters meeting; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYbb7R6SAaw&ab_channel=Fauna Do you have a flat mate named David? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=manzcm67Eco&ab_channel=TylerMann AC, I take it you are a big fan of Al Capone. Like Trump Al also didn't pay tax. Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 20 October 2020 7:21:56 AM
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Paul,
Desperation has set in apparently and I don't have 'chest bumps' like the person in the first video. Speaking of Porkies, suggest you leave your's alone. Posted by Is Mise, Tuesday, 20 October 2020 11:00:19 AM
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Paul,
Maybe Trumpf will pardon Al Capone before he leaves office, out of a sort of indirect gratitude or deferred payment from his old man. Joe Posted by loudmouth2, Tuesday, 20 October 2020 2:27:38 PM
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Issy, please explain why you want me to go on an ocean cruise? Aka the link above, will there be possums on board?
You have not supplied one scrap of evidence that Ms Thorpe wore a possum skin coat to her thing with the gov. For all we know she could have turned up stark naked! As for that far right shadowy mob the Australian Hunting Forum you wouldn't know what they're up to. So put up the evidence! Joe, Hitler was in his bunker for about 10 days before the end of WWII, so Trump still has time before he has to go into his hole under the White House. Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 20 October 2020 6:50:52 PM
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Paul,
You are becoming desperate; Thorpe was on just about every TV station strutting her stuff in her possum skin cloak. Seems she also swore allegiance to the Queen; was she fair dinkum or swearing a false oath/affirmation and thus committing perjury? "New Greens senator Lidia Thorpe has been sworn in to replace the Victorian seat of former leader Richard Di Natale. Ms Thrope entered the chamber wearing a possum skin cloak and doing a Black Power salute." http://www.sbs.com.au/news/lidia-thorpe-sworn-in-as-the-first-aboriginal-victorian-senator and: "An incoming senator who doesn't identify as Australian has been slammed for backtracking and declaring she will swear allegiance to the Queen to collect a $211,250 salary." http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8453615/Incoming-Greens-senator-Lidia-Thorpe-slammed-hypocrite-swearing-allegiance-Queen.html Have a look at her photos, she looks just like an Indigenous European Mediterranean. Posted by Is Mise, Tuesday, 20 October 2020 10:39:30 PM
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Issy thanks for the evidence, and stop trying to get Porky Awards under false pretences.
Just on Senator Lidia Thorpe, an excellent choice by the Victorian Greens to replace Richard Di Natale. Did you object when Ken Wyatt wore a possum skin cloak at his swearing in. Just as indigenous people the world over pursue their traditional cultural practices of hunting and gathering etc, I have no objection to Aboriginal people doing likewise, including possums for use in the making of cloaks. What I oppose are those honky white shooters who get out there indiscriminately killing our endangered fauna like your good mate Tony Azzi the wombat killer! Talking about reasonability, its about time the Shooters and Hooters took reasonability for all the environment damage they cause in this country! They need to be held to account for the part they played in last summers horrific bushfires. As for "looking the part" which is used often on the forum to denigrate many Aboriginal people by red necked white supremacists. I ask just exactly what does an Aboriginal person supposed to look like? At the same time you might enlighten me as to what a white Australian should look like. BTW in your clip I see Mathias Cormann, does he fit your mould of an ideal Australian? Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 21 October 2020 6:21:49 AM
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Paul,
"What I oppose are those honky white shooters who get out there indiscriminately killing our endangered fauna like your good mate Tony Azzi the wombat killer! Talking about reasonability, its about time the Shooters and Hooters took reasonability for all the environment damage they cause in this country! They need to be held to account for the part they played in last summers horrific bushfires." Evidence? Where's your evidence for shooters causing environmental damage and what do they have to do with bushfires? The Greens, on the other hand, are responsible for much environmental damage and their record re. bushfires stinks to high heaven. Wombats are not a threatened species, except for the Hairy Nosed variety in North Queensland. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wombat#:~:text=All%20species%20of%20wombats%20are%20protected%20in%20every,of%20overgrazing%20by%20cattle%20and%20sheep%2C%20and%20disease. Posted by Is Mise, Wednesday, 21 October 2020 10:13:01 AM
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IM,
You are simply being trolled by the biggest liar on this forum. Posted by shadowminister, Friday, 23 October 2020 2:37:23 AM
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Shonkyminister, butt out!! My forum friend Issy and I are having our usual discourse. We are comrades in arms, his party The Shooters and Hooters, gave my party The Greens, their preference at the last election, we are now comrades. Besides we are going on a high seas adventure together, Issy is paying for the stateroom on the bridge deck balcony, as soon as your mate The Donald wins the election, he said so! Not in so many words, but given his punting prowess I'm sure he'll win a motza on the result.
Now comrade Issy where were we, you wanted evidence of wombat killing, I gave you Tony Azzi. Check out the link below it says it all! http://www.coralexpeditions.com/au/destinations/great-barrier-reef/outerknown-adventures/?utm_source=Australian%20Geographic&utm_medium=Takeover&utm_campaign=GBR%202020 Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 23 October 2020 5:34:57 AM
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p/s I'm not going on our high seas adventure if shonkyministers is coming along. He's a party pooper!
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 23 October 2020 5:38:20 AM
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Fancy anyone defending the brutal killing of all those cuddly little possums just so someone could make a political point by wearing their skins; hardly seems to fit Greens' Policy.
I hope that the skins were tanned and not just rubbed with fat, traditional can mean smelly. Posted by Is Mise, Friday, 23 October 2020 1:14:37 PM
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Issy, we don't use fat anymore, not since we found out it high in cholesterol, these days we use polyunsaturated margarine. BTW our stateroom on the boat for our grand tour on the high seas is decked out with wall to wall possum carpet, the bed super king size of course, has a cover made from the last of the Lord Howe Island Woodhens, with stuffed Koala pillows. You'll feel right at home.
BTW good news, I believe Daryl and Gladys will be in the next stateroom on their honeymoon. We can hold a glass up to the wall and hear the latest goss! How about that! Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 25 October 2020 10:28:57 AM
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Paul,
"What I oppose are those honky white shooters who get out there indiscriminately killing our endangered fauna like your good mate Tony Azzi the wombat killer! Talking about reasonability, its about time the Shooters and Hooters took reasonability for all the environment damage they cause in this country! They need to be held to account for the part they played in last summers horrific bushfires." Evidence? Where's your evidence for shooters causing environmental damage and what do they have to do with bushfires? The Greens, on the other hand, are responsible for much environmental damage and their record re. bushfires stinks to high heaven. How about you answer the above with some evidence? I'll understand if you can't. Posted by Is Mise, Monday, 26 October 2020 1:24:28 PM
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Paul?
PAUL....PAUL....Where are you? Posted by Is Mise, Friday, 30 October 2020 4:21:00 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lidia_Thorpe
She has even won aclaim on Australian Hunting Forum where her pro-hunting stance has been much appreciated; it's not often that a Green is seen to be in favour of the taking of native animals for productive use.